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How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« on: October 29, 2014, 08:00:12 PM »
http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/28/how-to-reach-the-wal-mart-mom-voter/?google_editors_picks=true


Emotion and hope.  That sure sounds familiar, but not from the GOP.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 09:17:50 PM »
The emotion thing is why grandpa said the world went to hell when women got the vote.and to quote him" and we had to be stupid enough to give itbto them"


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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 11:13:04 PM »
The emotion thing is why grandpa said the world went to hell when women got the vote.and to quote him" and we had to be stupid enough to give itbto them"


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There is a nugget of truth here. Women are bit more likely to be emotive voters, but only a bit.

Far, far too many men do the same thing. They're just more likely to deny it, or feign knowledge they don't have out of ego.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 11:51:36 PM »
There is a nugget of truth here. Women are bit more likely to be emotive voters, but only a bit.

Far, far too many men do the same thing. They're just more likely to deny it, or feign knowledge they don't have out of ego.

I would suggest it is a bias for security over liberty.  And as the sexual revolution has torn through the culture, a lot more women end up in need of someone or something to provide that security for them and their illegitimate children after the sperm donors leave the picture.

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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 12:01:18 AM »
Women's suffrage grows the scope of .gov, that's a demonstrable statistical fact.

www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=43674.0

That being said, any form of democratic government always ratchets to the left, limiting suffrage just slows it.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2014, 09:06:57 AM »
I would suggest it is a bias for security over liberty.  And as the sexual revolution has torn through the culture, a lot more women end up in need of someone or something to provide that security for them and their illegitimate children after the sperm donors leave the picture.

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I don't think the sexual revolution caused any of that.  It was the lack of any consequences created by welfare, food stamps, etc.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 09:24:50 AM »

*shrug*

Universal suffrage is kinda mandatory if you accept the whole "taxation without representation" justification for the Revolutionary War. If I'm not allowed to vote, why should I pay taxes?


The other thing I'd like to point out that women may or may not be emotional voters. However, I'm willing to bet a pretty penny that men are equally emotional voters within 10%, just less willing to admit it.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2014, 11:45:20 AM »
*shrug*

Universal suffrage is kinda mandatory if you accept the whole "taxation without representation" justification for the Revolutionary War. If I'm not allowed to vote, why should I pay taxes?


The other thing I'd like to point out that women may or may not be emotional voters. However, I'm willing to bet a pretty penny that men are equally emotional voters within 10%, just less willing to admit it.

I'm not entirely convinced that the Revolutionary War was justified, these days.

Men and women are most likely emotion driven voters in roughly the same proportion. But what those emotions are is different, and (as demonstrated by the link above) women always vote for more government. Talking about women as a voting cohort, not about any of our APS ladies obviously.
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Re: How the GOP can reach the Wal-Mart Mom voter
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 02:27:15 PM »
I don't think the sexual revolution caused any of that.  It was the lack of any consequences created by welfare, food stamps, etc.

Of course, the spadework started with and a bit before the Progressive era, but it was fully realized in the late 1960s.

Uncle Sam, in the form of welfare goodies, is their husband at that point.  No need for the goodies/gov't growth if bastardy (the immediate consequence of the sexual revolution) is held in check. 

Womens' Suffrage --> Sexual Revolution --> Greater demand for welfare goodies due to rampant bastardy





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