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Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« on: December 31, 2014, 10:55:27 AM »
This is one you don't read about everyday. A Peruvian village was attacked by one of the "uncontacted tribes" there. A couple hundred guys with bows. Apparently the village was unarmed. I don't know what the (likely strict) gun laws are there, but not even a shotgun to defend themselves. Of course one of the postulated reasons for the attack was "climate change".

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/12/24/uncontacted-tribe-attacks-amazon-village/?intcmp=ob_article_footer_text&intcmp=obnetwork
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 11:47:37 AM »
Peru recently made their gun laws a whole lot more lenient. CCW is allowed (possibly shall issue), no ammo restrictions in either type of bullets allowed, nor on certain calibers.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 12:15:40 PM »
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Some suggest the tribe is growing desperate as loggers and drug-traffickers encroach on its protected land; others point to climate change, which has led to steeper drops in temperature.

Wait a minute.  Is the Globular Warmulating up here in the Northern Hemisphere working the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere?

What do they call it down there, Globular Coolulating?

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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 12:21:31 PM »
Peru recently made their gun laws a whole lot more lenient. CCW is allowed (possibly shall issue), no ammo restrictions in either type of bullets allowed, nor on certain calibers.

Peru is coming along nicely, but I imagine that a remote village like that is still something of a third-world dirt-farm existence. So even if the law is on their side, the money to afford a gun which is probably significantly more expensive than it is in America, and literacy to get a permit, even if shall-issue, and access to a sufficiently prosperous town that actually has a gun store etc. might still be insurmountable.

As to "climate change" or MMGW pressuring the tribe to attack? Maybe they're just jerks.  :rofl:
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 01:14:29 PM »
. . . As to "climate change" or MMGW pressuring the tribe to attack? Maybe they're just jerks.  :rofl:
Climate change was responsible for the rise of Genghis Khan, Attila, and all manner of invaders sweeping across the countryside . . . so if you don't want your neighborhood ravaged by a horde of modern-day Mongols or Huns, you better start sending $$$ to Algore to purchase indulgences carbon credits.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 01:36:24 PM »
Has anyone suggested that maybe this whole "uncontacted" tribe thing might no longer be a viable situation?

I mean, I get why they do it, but I think if the tribe in question is contacting outsiders with bows and arrows, they might just have to suck it up and join the modern world.

Rig up a bunch of darts with a heavy duty cocktail of vaccines, shoot up the tribes people, leave 'em to there own devices for a week or so, and viola! Time to invade with Coca Cola, candy and TV.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2014, 03:50:24 PM »
Why did they do it?  What would have drriven them to do such a thing?

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The Mashco-Piro raiders took tools, blankets, and food, reports the Guardian, as well as killed domestic animals.

Sounds to me that these "uncontacted" people have had some level of contact already.

Although that's just a guess, you understand.

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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2014, 04:25:54 PM »
They are an uncontacted tribe.  Meaning they haven't been contacted since the last time they raided a village and stole stuff.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »
Perhaps "contact" is a one-way verb to anthropologists. It's okay for "uncontacted" indigenous peoples to initiate contact, but woe unto the blighted person from civilization who has the gall to initiate the contact process.

Just more of some people being more equal than other people. Plus a massively egotistical assumption that an "uncontacted" tribe must wish to remain uncontacted. They might be very happy to be contacted. (Of course, we can't find out unless we contact them and ask, and then if they say "No" it's too late. Another impossible dilemma.)
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2014, 06:54:44 PM »
Why did they do it?  What would have drriven them to do such a thing?

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The Mashco-Piro raiders took tools, blankets, and food, reports the Guardian, as well as killed domestic animals.

Sounds to me that these "uncontacted" people have had some level of contact already.

Although that's just a guess, you understand.

stay safe.

So this was basically armed robbery writ large?   Could this simply be a case of Tribe "A" attacking Tribe "B" and stealing their stuff?  Contacted or not, they are part of the human race and therefore possess all the bad traits as well as the "good" traits of being "uncontacted". ;/ ;/ ;/
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2014, 10:33:35 PM »
Climate change was responsible for the rise of Genghis Khan, Attila, and all manner of invaders sweeping across the countryside . . . so if you don't want your neighborhood ravaged by a horde of modern-day Mongols or Huns, you better start sending $$$ to Algore to purchase indulgences carbon credits.
I have a book on Roman warfare that mentioned localized climate change having a hand in Germanic tribes migrating out of the mountains leading to some of their difficulties.  The author also talked about the population of Rome and Italy during the Punic Wars and how many ships Rome lost and replaced.  He speculated the climate was less dry and better for growing food and wood.  I think I first read that in the 90's when that issue was picking up.

The author also talked about the climate at the time when discussing Hanibal's route across the Alps. 
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2014, 10:35:55 PM »
Sounds to me that these "uncontacted" people have had some level of contact already.

Although that's just a guess, you understand.

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So this was basically armed robbery writ large?   Could this simply be a case of Tribe "A" attacking Tribe "B" and stealing their stuff?  Contacted or not, they are part of the human race and therefore possess all the bad traits as well as the "good" traits of being "uncontacted". ;/ ;/ ;/
Yeah, just doing what most primitive tribes were doing in the old days.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2014, 11:28:56 PM »
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The Mashco-Piro raiders took tools, blankets, and food, reports the Guardian, as well as killed domestic animals.

I thought one of the goals of leaving uncontacted tribes uncontacted was to prevent contaminating their way of life with "modern" stuff. Looks like these folks decided they'd rather have the modern stuff.

Reminds me of that classic movie, The Gods Must be Crazy.
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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2015, 08:51:42 AM »
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I thought one of the goals of leaving uncontacted tribes uncontacted was to prevent contaminating their way of life with "modern" stuff.

So what's the goal of that goal?

To provide research material for anthropology Doctoral Candidate theses?

A paltry excuse, to my mind.

I take the whole incident as it is described as a confirmation of the thesis that all power comes from the muzzle of a gun.*

Or the loosing of an arrow.

Maybe we ought to toss the concept of "uncontacted" and get
in there and make them register their bows.  Confiscation can come later.

And we should limit their quivers to ten arrows in the meantime.

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Re: Peruvian Village Attacked by Bow Wielding Tribe
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2015, 09:18:42 AM »
Climate change was responsible for the rise of Genghis Khan, Attila, and all manner of invaders sweeping across the countryside . . . so if you don't want your neighborhood ravaged by a horde of modern-day Mongols or Huns, you better start sending $$$ to Algore to purchase indulgences carbon credits.
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