pushing the boundaries of irrelevance

[brimic]

http://news.yahoo.com/huckabee-slams-obama-letting-daughters-listen-beyonce-185535240.html

Please don't let this fool run in 2016.

[Angel Eyes]

He won't get the nomination.  Ever.

[charby]

He's just pandering to the 10-20 people that love him.

[Angel Eyes]

He's just pandering to the 10-20 people that love don't ignore him.

Fixed.

[TommyGunn]

He used to be a minister.
Perhaps he should go back to his roots .... if he's criticizing Obama for letting his daughters listen to pop culture mavens then the pulpit is perfect for him.
He's a nice guy. 
But nice guys "finish last."     

[RoadKingLarry]

I don't even consider him a nice guy. Just another religious zealot trying to force his beliefs on other people.

[Angel Eyes]

He used to be a minister.
Perhaps he should go back to his roots .... if he's criticizing Obama for letting his daughters listen to pop culture mavens then the pulpit is perfect for him.

This from the man who played "Cat Scratch Fever" on TV with Nugent.

[TommyGunn]

I don't even consider him a nice guy. Just another religious zealot trying to force his beliefs on other people.

Never heard him trying to do that ........

[roo_ster]

Never heard him trying to do that ........

Do you not understand? 

His very existence is a macro/micro/nano aggression.  Then he has the gaul to get a teevee and radio talkshow and is able through the black magic of his religion...and the sacrifice of the blood of 20 lgbtbbqwtfpedxing saints...to reach through the airwaves with his piggy little baptist fingers and force his opinions down listeners throats.  It is horrifying to behold.  He might look and sound boring and unremarkable but that just shows he is a master in the arts of mass deception.

[RoadKingLarry]

Well, we know who the Huckabee supporters are here....

Sure, he's not forcing with the point of a gun but what damn business of his is it what Obama, or anyone else let their kids watch, Beyoncé  or Harry Potter or Ted Nugent.  None of his business and making public statements on the issue is an attempt to change someone else's behavior based on his religious views.

[MicroBalrog]

A social conservative baptist minister has more conservative views about music than Barack Obama.

I fail to be outraged.

[makattak]

Well, we know who the Huckabee supporters are here....

Sure, he's not forcing with the point of a gun but what damn business of his is it what Obama, or anyone else let their kids watch, Beyoncé  or Harry Potter or Ted Nugent.  None of his business and making public statements on the issue is an attempt to change someone else's behavior based on his religious views.

He's trying to change somone's behavior!??!? With WORDS!!?!??!

That's SORCERY! He's a WITCH! BURN HIM!!!!




And, I've chosen this sarcasm purposely as there is a stream of thought in our culture very closely aligned to that of the witch-burning Puritans, but it isn't the evangelical Christians.

I'm wondering when having and expressing an opinion became unacceptable. I suppose I ought to start calling out those who worship at the altar of John Moses Browning for expressing an opinion about someone else's gun or gun handling skills. It's none of their damn business what someone else does to their gun. They ought to just keep their mouths shut.

[Ron]

He's trying to change somone's behavior!??!? With WORDS!!?!??!

That's SORCERY! He's a WITCH! BURN HIM!!!!

And, I've chosen this sarcasm purposely as there is a stream of thought in our culture very closely aligned to that of the witch-burning Puritans, but it isn't the evangelical Christians.

Actually many see the progressive social justice movement as nothing but the bastard secularized offspring of the protestant social justice movement, which has its roots in Puritanism.

The religious zeal, adherence to dogma and apocalyptic fear of the future all remain but they eliminated the reason to love as well as the source of faith and hope; God.

[Ron]

I don't even consider him a nice guy. Just another religious zealot trying to force his beliefs on other people.

And you? Just another secular zealot trying to shut down public discourse about religion and morality?

Or are you like Huckabee, just a strongly opinionated man who isn't afraid to enter into the arena of ideas?

If by some oddness in the universe he was nominated I doubt I would vote for him. Pretty sure he is a big government social con.

[roo_ster]

Well, we know who the Huckabee supporters are here....

Sure, he's not forcing with the point of a gun but what damn business of his is it what Obama, or anyone else let their kids watch, Beyoncé  or Harry Potter or Ted Nugent.  None of his business and making public statements on the issue is an attempt to change someone else's behavior based on his religious views.

If his _supporters_ think him "boring and unremarkable" huckabee is a shoo-in for potus for sure.

[brimic]

Of all of the illegal and immoral things obama and his administration has done so far, I can't think of a more inane criticism of him than about the music his daughter listens to.

[Ron]

I actually just read the article, LOL

He is promoting his book, inflammatory quotes gets you headlines in Yahoo news.

It's actually kind of funny how he is trolling the President and first lady. Not my style but it still is amusing.

[mtnbkr]

Of all of the illegal and immoral things obama and his administration has done so far, I can't think of a more inane criticism of him than about the music his daughter listens to.

And that's the issue.  We focus on the nonsense (this and other non-policy, non-ideological issues) and ignore or give less time to the true crimes of our political opponents.

Bread and circuses...

Chris

[Ron]

Bread and circuses

More like Pizza and TV.

That's why there will never be restoration of rights or rebellion against the system.

The sheep are fed, entertained and encouraged to debase themselves in private all they want.

edited to add:
Beyonce and Jay Z are part of the circus and the debasing of culture. I'm sure they are supporters of the welfare state also.

[KD5NRH]

This from the man who played "Cat Scratch Fever" on TV with Nugent.

Are you suggesting that there may be something inappropriate in the lyrics of that song?   

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

I'm wondering when having and expressing an opinion became unacceptable.

It's not a question of when expressing your opinion became unacceptable.  It's a question of what opinion you want to express.  

See, some opinions are a-ok.  Others are not.  Traditional/Christian/conservative values are are of the not-ok variety.  This should be obvious, but if it's not, just ask around.  Someone will be along shortly to tell you how Christiany-type ideas are unacceptable.  Keep that stuff to yourself.

Of all of the illegal and immoral things obama and his administration has done so far, I can't think of a more inane criticism of him than about the music his daughter listens to.

I'll bet you a nickel that Huckabee criticizes a lot more about Obama and his ilk than music preferences.  I don't follow Huckabee's shows, so I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident.  

This story about Huckabee follows a formula common in the leftist media.  Cherry pick something weird or silly that a conservative said, then amplify it and present it as though that's all he said.  Ignore everything else he says that makes more sense or carries more weight.

The goal is to make you dismissive of conservatives and their ideas.  And it works.

[brimic]

It's not a question of when expressing your opinion became unacceptable.  It's a question of what opinion you want to express.  

See, some opinions are a-ok.  Others are not.  Traditional/Christian/conservative values are are of the not-ok variety.  This should be obvious, but if it's not, just ask around.  Someone will be along shortly to tell you how Christiany-type ideas are unacceptable.  Keep that stuff to yourself.


I'll bet you a nickel that Huckabee criticizes a lot more about Obama and his ilk than music preferences.  I don't follow Huckabee's shows, so I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident.  

This story about Huckabee follows a formula common in the leftist media.  Cherry pick something weird or silly that a conservative said, then amplify it and present it as though that's all he said.  Ignore everything else he says that makes more sense or carries more weight.

The goal is to make you dismissive of conservatives and their ideas.  And it works.

I would contend that huckabee is doing that exact thing himself- to Christianity and to conservatives.
1. He is not a conservative, he's a tax and spend liberal who runs to the causes of guns and God when it suits his purpose to fool some people
2. He focuses in on a red herring, meaningless stance that he links to his 'conservatism' that not only makes him look like a fool, but is then linked to all other conservatives.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Hey, I'm not trying to defend Huckabee.  I'm just trying to point out that it's senseless to criticize the guy because all he says is irrelevant stuff like Beyonce is bad, because that's not all he says.  

[TommyGunn]

Well, we know who the Huckabee supporters are here....

Sure, he's not forcing with the point of a gun but what damn business of his is it what Obama, or anyone else let their kids watch, Beyoncé  or Harry Potter or Ted Nugent.  None of his business and making public statements on the issue is an attempt to change someone else's behavior based on his religious views.

I guess he has as much right to express an opinion on what kind of music person X likes as anyone else.  I myself do not like Beyonce, therefor, I do not listen to her, or care for what she is singing about -- or even if she CAN sing.  I don't worry about what Obama's daughters like in terms of music, either. 
Some modern music is really pretty ugly, like some rap.  I'm thinking of the kind where racial epithets and sexual epithets are used all too freely.   
Therefor I don't listen to them.
I also haven't paid much attention to Huckabee.   I might even agree with a lot he says.  I don't fear his religious ideas any more than I feared Jerry Falwell's.   
Huckabee is not going to be the next president of the United States.  He may have a lot of good ideas and some really bad ones, but he doesn't have the "fire in the belly" that is required.   
He's too much the milquetoast ....
And I say all this still saying I like the guy.   
Maybe THAT'S the biggest reason why he will NOT be the next president of the USA.