So Perry's not that great on guns...

[brimic]

Open Carry Texas are the prototypical Fatty and Snowboots morons who got places like Chipotle to ban OC. Open Carry Tarrant County is so bad even OCT has formally disavowed them.

What is in the water in Texas?
We've had OC legal (though not necessarily widely understood) for about a century without neck beards going full retard with it.

[MechAg94]

As I said, it has been a few years since I had contact with them regarding OC.  Hopefully they have changed their stance on it. 

The *idiots* in OCTC tactics are asinine.  They have gotten OC talked about, and not in a good way.  Steady & relentless is usually a good path to follow for change, pushing like they have been has the probability of forcing others to take a stand they might not have otherwise.

That's all so true, unfortunately.  I'm still puzzled as to why it's that way here.

And getting a CHL here can be expensive, especially if there are multiple folks in the household getting it at the same time.  When we first got ours, it was close to $600 for two; $125 each for the class, $125 each for the CHL, a total of over 100 miles driven (classes, retaking fingerprints twice, etc.) and other misc. expenses.  That can put a strain on lower income/retired budgets.

I thougth they lowered the cost for the CHL during the last session.  I know they removed requirements to retake a renewal course everytime the licence is renewed. 

[KD5NRH]

Trying to rip away the cover garment and having it not get snagged takes real time and practice.   Not to mention that said hood-rat/methhead will shoot you as your trying to hold your cover garment open.

Meh.  I open carried a bit while I was in NM, and the first thing I noticed was that the PT-99 I carried concealed with no problems was snagging on everything when it was out there uncovered.

[MechAg94]

Meh.  I open carried a bit while I was in NM, and the first thing I noticed was that the PT-99 I carried concealed with no problems was snagging on everything when it was out there uncovered.

That reminds me of all the cell phone belt clips I have broken in the past due to that same reason. 

[Hawkmoon]

Just imagine that a little over 20 years ago Clinton signed the AWB and we thought for sure that the next step was to be a total ban or the next best thing.

And here we are today discussing how to get more Open Carry laws passed despite the basement dwelling neck-beards being the greatest gift that Everytown Mayors for Brady could ask for. 

You don't live in New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, or Washington, DC, do you?

[Scout26]

I live in Illinois. 

Which until a year ago was as bad, it not worse then many of those places.

[Cliffh]

I thougth they lowered the cost for the CHL during the last session.  I know they removed requirements to retake a renewal course everytime the licence is renewed.  

I renewed last year, still had to take the classroom & range training, IIRC it was right around $125 for that.  The renewal fees to DPS was less than the initial permit, but I don't remember what it cost right now.

I've done some OC in AZ & KY, really haven't had a problem with it hanging up on anything.  And a 4" .357 sort of sticks out there.

[Balog]

You don't live in New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, or Washington, DC, do you?

All fifty states used to have laws just as bad as those liberal shtholes.

[Brad Johnson]

I renewed last year, still had to take the classroom & range training, IIRC it was right around $125 for that.  The renewal fees to DPS was less than the initial permit, but I don't remember what it cost right now.

I've done some OC in AZ & KY, really haven't had a problem with it hanging up on anything.  And a 4" .357 sort of sticks out there.

I renewed online last year. No class 'er nuthin'.

Brad

[Cliffh]

Just glancing through https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetForms/Forms/CHL-16.pdf looks like a third or subsequent renewal doesn't require the class, 1st or second does.  Since it was my first renewal, had to take the course.  It was shorter than that required for those getting their original permit, basically the shooting part and a bit of the law.