Net Neutrality Passes 3-2

[Ben]

Another "We've got to pass it to see what's in it" pile of hogwash has passed on a 3-2 vote by the FCC.

I'm thinking of stocking up on toilet paper.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/26/fcc-approves-sweeping-internet-regulation-plan-obama-accused-meddling/

[brimic]

Remember Skid's advice to get the soft lotiony kind of TP along with feminine hygiene products as well....

[Nick1911]

So what does this actually mean for the Internet?

[brimic]

So what does this actually mean for the Internet?

Probably about as much as the Patriot Act did at first- not much.
I'm much more disturbed by the huge power grabs being made by the executive branch with absolutely no checks or balances being brought by the other two branches.

[charby]

So what does this actually mean for the Internet?

Means that providers can't limit bandwidth for some services like Netflix's and open up bandwidth for others willing to pay for it. Or a Telco provided Internet blocking VIOP, such as Vontage.

[Monkeyleg]

Means that providers can't limit bandwidth for some services like Netflix's and open up bandwidth for others willing to pay for it. Or a Telco provided Internet blocking VIOP, such as Vontage.

So, the providers will have to amortize the cost of the higher users by increasing everyone's rates. Either that, or they'll have to raid the huge vault filled with excess gold that liberals think all businesses have.

[Ben]

So, the providers will have to amortize the cost of the higher users by increasing everyone's rates. Either that, or they'll have to raid the huge vault filled with excess gold that liberals think all businesses have.

Well, raise rates on you and me, because, though we haven't been able to see what's in it yet, a major part of the plan is guaranteeing broadban Internet for everyone "as a right", kinda like health insurance. So like health insurance, your monthly payments will likely cover you and a couple of subsidized people. I also predict subsidized groups will have low cost Internet at 50MBPS while I'll be paying more for less bandwidth.

Government regulation always finds the lowest common denominator.

[charby]

CNN had a fairly decent story on their website

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/26/technology/fcc-rules-net-neutrality/index.html

[brimic]

Means that providers can't limit bandwidth for some services like Netflix's and open up bandwidth for others willing to pay for it. Or a Telco provided Internet blocking VIOP, such as Vontage.

From my understanding, pretty much all residential land line service is more or less VOIP. My curretn internet provider has a plan where I pay $19.95 a month plus taxes and fees for a land line... I bought an Ooma device that does the same thing for about $3 taxes/month.

My point here is that if a .gov agency is going to collect taxes on a service, I doubt a telecom can get away with blocking such a site.

[charby]

From my understanding, pretty much all residential land line service is more or less VOIP. My curretn internet provider has a plan where I pay $19.95 a month plus taxes and fees for a land line... I bought an Ooma device that does the same thing for about $3 taxes/month.

My point here is that if a .gov agency is going to collect taxes on a service, I doubt a telecom can get away with blocking such a site.

Still POTS here if you get a land line from Century Link (at one time was one of the baby Bells, Northwestern Bell)

[RoadKingLarry]

From my understanding, pretty much all residential land line service is more or less VOIP. My curretn internet provider has a plan where I pay $19.95 a month plus taxes and fees for a land line... I bought an Ooma device that does the same thing for about $3 taxes/month.

My point here is that if a .gov agency is going to collect taxes on a service, I doubt a telecom can get away with blocking such a site.

Depends on location and how deep you need to get into the network weather or not your call goes VOIP. My exchange is still predominately old style analog from subscriber to switch, then how it is transported from the switch depends on the other end of the call. AT&T is shooting for 2020 to be 100% VOIP/Uverse, they've already made a good start on that in more metro areas but the small towns and rural areas are a ways down the road. Even in the metro areas a basic phone line will more likely as not still be old school analog from subscriber to switch and unless your call leaves your area code it'll still be working with 100+  year old technology riding on 30+ year old equipment.

[Boomhauer]

Why do I have a really bad feeling about this...

[Hawkmoon]

Why do I have a really bad feeling about this...

Because government is involved.

[never_retreat]

Better get more foil.

[Ben]

Better get more foil.

Possibly.

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/571114672360976384/photo/1

[GigaBuist]

So, the providers will have to amortize the cost of the higher users by increasing everyone's rates.

That's already how internet usage works and this doesn't change that.  This also doesn't prevent them from cutting off an end user when their data hits a certain cap regardless of where it came from or where it was going.  What it does prevent them from doing is limiting you to only 10GB/month with Netflix unless you pay premium but letting you pull 300GB/month from some other service that paid them off.

[Boomhauer]

Possibly.

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/571114672360976384/photo/1

The leftists cannot stand the freedom of speech the internet offers. They absolutely hate it. It allows just about anyone, anywhere, at any time to voice their opinion, and the consumers and viewers can choose to listen to it or not. That is WAY too much freedom to be allowed to stand.

Remember, when a leftist starts yammering on about the importance of "freedom of speech", what they really mean is "freedom of speech is important for our side. But the enemy MUST be silenced"

[brimic]

The leftists cannot stand the freedom of speech the internet offers. They absolutely hate it. It allows just about anyone, anywhere, at any time to voice their opinion, and the consumers and viewers can choose to listen to it or not. That is WAY too much freedom to be allowed to stand.

Remember, when a leftist starts yammering on about the importance of "freedom of speech", what they really mean is "freedom of speech is important for our side. But the enemy MUST be silenced"

That's why leftist control, when taken to its logical conclusion, always ends up with mass graves. leftism doesn't stand up to logical scrutiny and must be protected with democide.

[tokugawa]

That's why leftist control, when taken to its logical conclusion, always ends up with mass graves. leftism doesn't stand up to logical scrutiny and must be protected with democide.

  Yep.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Is there a place to read the actual rules?


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[makattak]

Is there a place to read the actual rules?


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I'm guessing no since they made certain it didn't leak before the vote. Can't have the public know their plans- they had to pass it so we could find out what was in it.