The Mouse likes H-1b visas

[MillCreek]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html

Disney IT gets outsourced thanks to the H-1b visa.

[lee n. field]

I heard that somewhere.  Slashdot, I think.

Yeah, they can't get good talent in the United State, right.

[vaskidmark]

What happened to all the folks (maybe at Disney, maybe elsewhere) who said they would quit rather than train a H-1b replacement?

Friend of my buddy is losing her job at a law firm but is the only one who knows all sorts of stuff they still need someone attending to.  Trying to convince her to stop accepting changed last day dates and just quit, then offer to work as an independent contractor.  Given the firm's need for her knowledge, skills, and her ability to keep certain skeletons in the closet she could easily make 10X what they are currently giving her.

Folks at the Mouse Haus could probably get away with the same, seeing how desperately Disney needs to have their visitor's experiences go without hitches.

stay safe.

[Northwoods]

H-1B's have their place, but IMHO they're severely overused. 

I've seen ads from job shops for contractor stress analysis positions that typically should pay $65-80/hour given they're asking for master's degrees and 10+ (or bachelors and 12+) years experience.  Instead they offer $40-50/hr (DOE).  Pretty crystal clear what game they're playing.

The last couple H-1B's they've hired at my company, that I've seen, are at least getting paid comparable wages to what a citizen could expect.  And they were selected after lengthy processes of interviews that included a citizen declining (after first accepting) an offer first.

[brimic]

They did the exact same thing, almost the exact same memo too... the laid off workers had to train foreigners how to do their work as the product lines were moved to eastern europe.
Its been 3 years now and the brain trust with all of their eastern european PhDs, still haven't figured out how the guys who used to work for my company made such a high quality product. Some executive of megalocorp got his bonus, which in the end,  is all that matters.

[RoadKingLarry]

When I worked for Decision1 they decided to move our operation to Texas and told us we would be required to train them.
I found a new job and gave my 2 weeks notice. They walked me out the next day.
My boss had the balls to tell me I was disloyal and unprofessional.

[MechAg94]

So did Disney give them a bonus to stay and train their replacements?  Why stick around?

[MillCreek]

So did Disney give them a bonus to stay and train their replacements?  Why stick around?

If they stayed around, they received a bonus equal to 10% of their yearly salary.

[brimic]

If they stayed around, they received a bonus equal to 10% of their yearly salary.

10% is too much to say 'eff you' and walk away from.
Its not enough to adequately have replacements trained.
Its right about in the sweet spot to sabotage and cause maximum harm.

One of our 'laid off' off workers had to stay for 6 months to get her bonus. She was a liability in the labs so she was assigned document change duty. 3 years later we are still catching some of the 'changes' she made to stoichiometry and processes she made in our manufacturing methods. (She was updating methods in a department that wasn't being moved off site).
I caught a couple of near disasterous doozies right away, but a few slipped by others which caused quality problems and product losses well beyond what we were paying her in salary.

[Jocassee]

I've already said everything on this topic I have to say in other threads. But I am looking forward to disastrous intersection of corporate "efficiency" and decreasing ability in this country.

[RevDisk]

Deloitte outsourced their GNOC to India. They tried to sell it at first that they were just taking over third shift, which was harder to staff. It would have made sense to keep India as first level support, and keep one or two Americans to mentor and take anything complex.

Before they even outsourced everyone, one of the Hyderabad engineers got an alert that a server was running out of room. So he deleted some "temp directories". We're not exactly sure what happened, but part of what he deleted was AD stuff. Which replicated across the globe. The AD team leaps into action and after working 12 hours, managed to fix. At which point, Africa came back online and replicated the changes again.

We calculated it, and roughly estimated this one incident likely wiped out the savings for a minimum of 5 years, possibly 10.

Some of the engineers were pretty good, some were VERY good and we would have loved having them here. Most however weren't, even if they had three times the certs we had. Turnover was high.

[Northwoods]

With the off-shoring we do with India, turnover has been really low, in the stress analysis group.  When I started managing those projects there were 3 dudes in India doing FEA.  They transferred one to be on-site at my company's division in DFW.  They backfilled him with a new dude and hired a 4th.  So I have 2 new dudes to work with, but all 3 of the originals are still around.  That's after a bit more than 18 months.