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Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« on: June 06, 2015, 10:15:03 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-helicopter-fired-upon-forced-land-texas-034942866.html

Along the Texas border a helicopter was fired upon and forced to land.

Has this happened before?
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 12:33:30 PM »
Quote from: Ron on June 06, 2015, 10:15:03 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-helicopter-fired-upon-forced-land-texas-034942866.html

Along the Texas border a helicopter was fired upon and forced to land.

Has this happened before?

I would assume that if helicopters had not landed before, a different type of aircraft would be used that did NOT crash.   >:D
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 12:44:32 PM »
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 01:16:48 PM »
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Perhaps the  op was asking if any helicopters were previously shot at by drug cartels....... [popcorn]
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 02:01:48 PM »
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forced to land

This statement can have a few different meanings.

Forced landing, as in had to land right there due to the damage, no option otherwise (such as engine failure, transmission damage, etc)

Or

Forced to land as in forced to fly to a suitable area for a precautionary landing and damage check.

Generally if one has been shot at you don't really want to land right there in the vicinity of the shooting, you want to get out of the immediate area.

Article is a little short on details to tell what "forced to land" means in this case.





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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 02:05:02 PM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on June 06, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
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Perhaps the  op was asking if any helicopters were previously shot at by drug cartels....... [popcorn]

Yes and it's been going on for years. 
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 02:06:48 PM »
Quote from: jamisjockey on June 06, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Yes and it's been going on for years. 

He's been asking for years?!?   ???
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2015, 10:14:03 AM »
The shots were from the Mexican side and it is now called an emergency landing.

 (CNN)A U.S. Customs and Border Protection helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing in Texas after it was struck by gunfire from the Mexican side of the border Friday.

Laredo Police were called by border patrol, who said "one of their helicopters had received gunfire," said police spokesman Joe Baeza.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/06/us/us-helicopter-shot/index.html
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2015, 01:03:33 PM »
Probably just a bunch of rightwingconservativereligiousnutNRAmembers out showing their contempt for the Obama administration.
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2015, 11:07:37 AM »
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2015, 11:13:02 AM »
Quote from: Doggy Daddy on June 06, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
I would assume that if helicopters had not landed before, a different type of aircraft would be used that did NOT crash.

Well, not landing could also include getting stuck in the air.  That could be a real pain, since repairs would require a huge ladder.
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2015, 12:18:26 PM »
Wait, wait, wait....this is unpossible as Mexico has very,very strick gun control laws.
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2015, 12:31:23 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on June 08, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
Wait, wait, wait....this is unpossible as Mexico has very,very strick gun control laws.
And they are just a bunch of friendly folks who want to pick our organic non gmo heritage crop vegetables!
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2015, 01:25:21 PM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on June 06, 2015, 02:01:48 PM
This statement can have a few different meanings.
Forced landing, as in had to land right there due to the damage, no option otherwise (such as engine failure, transmission damage, etc)
Or
Forced to land as in forced to fly to a suitable area for a precautionary landing and damage check.
Generally if one has been shot at you don't really want to land right there in the vicinity of the shooting, you want to get out of the immediate area.
Article is a little short on details to tell what "forced to land" means in this case.

I would say that making a reasonable decision to discontinue the mission and land as a result of being shot at counts as "shot down" even if the purpose of the landing was to check damage that turned out not to be serious enough to impair the aircraft's safe operation upon inspection in a manner that wasn't possible during flight.
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Re: Border Patrol helicopter forced to land
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2015, 06:10:27 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on June 08, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
I would say that making a reasonable decision to discontinue the mission and land as a result of being shot at counts as "shot down" even if the purpose of the landing was to check damage that turned out not to be serious enough to impair the aircraft's safe operation upon inspection in a manner that wasn't possible during flight.

I would disagree. To me "shot down" means the aircraft is no longer capable of flight and is landing RIGHT NOW. If you can fly away and land at your leisure you weren't shot down.

Semantics, I know. In this case "forced to land" to inspect the aircraft seems right.

I do wonder how they decided there were 5 shots fired, 2 of which hit. In my experience with helicopters, inside one isn't the best place to hear and count gunshots on the ground.
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