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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2015, 01:16:32 PM »
A lot of the old cartoons and comedies are actually still very good.  If anything, the attempts to remake those cartoons later are the ones that are not very good.

I will grant this.  OLD Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, etc. could be very good (dare I write it?) artful entertainment.  I especially recall this old cartoon that had zero "name" characters and takes place in a library.  Just classic books and takes on them.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2015, 02:19:19 PM »
If you thought The Neverending Story was great as a kid, keep you childhood illusions alive.  Don't watch it now.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2015, 02:20:51 PM »
I will grant this.  OLD Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, etc. could be very good (dare I write it?) artful entertainment. 

For the old Tom and Jerry, probably mostly from the Tex Avery era. Some of the slightly later ones were still great, but they soon went downhill.

I have all the old ones on DVD and it's funny watching the Whoopi Goldberg intro where she has to explain the cartoons and basically apologize for their "offensiveness". I do at least credit them with still making the cartoons available. It would be a bummer if they disappeared due to political correctness as so many others have (though you can still find them on Youtube if you dig around).

Also ALL Tex Avery cartoons were fantastic. The man was a master of metaphors. I wish his cartoons were not so difficult to find.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2015, 05:08:04 PM »
I must have been kind of OCD as a kid when it came to Sci-Fi.

I always could tell when the same shots of space ships or fighters were strung together in Buck Rogers or Battlestar Galactica, and sometimes flipped for variety,


That shot of the turret missing the Cylon Raider twice before hitting it was the most overused piece of film on that series.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2015, 05:32:00 PM »
The cartoon that is much better as an adult... The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2015, 09:01:44 PM »
If you mean this, it looks like he has the joint of his thumb on the hammer, not just the tip. I would guess that has him choking up on the gun more than most shooters would. (I have very limited experience with SAAs, so I don't really know.)

That's basically it, but in many of the scenes in the episodes it looks like his whole hand is farther forward, and the web between his thumb and first finger is what's on the hammer.

Really strange, now that I've shot SAAs of my own.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2015, 09:20:11 PM »
I always laughed my butt off in the old cowboy movies when the Gabby Hayes type characters pulled out their revolver and threw shots like they were throwing a baseball and were able to shoot guys off horses a hundred yards away. [popcorn]
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2015, 11:35:57 PM »
My illusions were shattered when I was 9.  Every morning before school we used to watch "The Janie Show".  It was a local show that played cartoons with a twenty kid studio audience and Janie would host games for the kids and introduce cartoons. 

I thought she was hot.

I begged, and begged, and begged to go on the show.   Never did.

However, one Saturday she was doing a remote show at some store (I disremember which), but begged my parents to go there for the free stuff they were handing out, yeah that's it, for the free stuff.

Needless to say that my disappoint in what she looked like in real life, belied what a TV makeup and crappy definition early 1970's TV could do to really improve their looks.   

I was crushed.
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2015, 12:08:20 AM »
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2015, 07:44:45 AM »
I realized recently that MacGyver was not a scientist with a huge amount of practical knowledge, he was a wizard who used available materials for his spells. Need a landmine?  Cast a spell on a piece of ground using pinecones. Presto!  Blow up a car.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2015, 08:00:33 AM »
I would be willing to pay a pretty penny to a streaming network that had ALL past TV shows commercial free ... I signed up for HULU PLUS but I could never find out how to sign up for the $11.99 commercial free version of it so I cancelled the service .... there were a lot of shows missing .... any favorite networks ?

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2015, 08:36:40 AM »
My illusions were shattered when I was 9.  Every morning before school we used to watch "The Janie Show".  It was a local show that played cartoons with a twenty kid studio audience and Janie would host games for the kids and introduce cartoons. 

I thought she was hot.

I begged, and begged, and begged to go on the show.   Never did.

However, one Saturday she was doing a remote show at some store (I disremember which), but begged my parents to go there for the free stuff they were handing out, yeah that's it, for the free stuff.

Needless to say that my disappoint in what she looked like in real life, belied what a TV makeup and crappy definition early 1970's TV could do to really improve their looks.   

I was crushed.


Here... Because crushed dreams are best when trampled a bit more, and the fragments ground into the dust.  >:D

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2015, 08:58:38 AM »
This is the news anchor we used to drool all on and on about in middle school.



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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2015, 09:41:29 AM »
At least I still have Kukla, Fran and Ollie.  And maybe some of you who get Chicago TV can ask your grandparents about Garfield Goose, the King of the United States. :old:

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2015, 09:58:20 AM »
I loved this show called The Thunderbirds. Just had to watch it whenever it was on. The actors were awesome and the stories were fantastic.

Watched an episode recently and did you know the actors were puppets! Puppets!  I was heartbroken. 

I never watched that as a kid.  Looking at it now online, the stop-motion animation is actually very good!  Much better than most drawn animation (or even live action) shows from that era.
I like that the puppet wearing glasses is wearing real (quite strong) corrective lenses instead of empty frames. :D
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2015, 10:00:26 AM »
At least I still have Kukla, Fran and Ollie.  And maybe some of you who get Chicago TV can ask your grandparents about Garfield Goose, the King of the United States. :old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOcsBDhySik

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2015, 11:12:49 AM »
For the old western fans do some searching on the Hollywood fast draw. Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr. were two of the quickest and we owe it all to Arvo Ojala.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2015, 11:53:38 AM »
I realized recently that MacGyver was not a scientist with a huge amount of practical knowledge, he was a wizard who used available materials for his spells. Need a landmine?  Cast a spell on a piece of ground using pinecones. Presto!  Blow up a car.



This is the news anchor we used to drool all on and on about in middle school.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2015, 01:35:09 PM »
I get all my TV from over the air (OTA) stations. I get the oldies from Antenna TV, ME (Memorable Entertainment) TV, and the like, as well as current offerings.  Oh, and it's FREE!

Anyhow, in watching those old shows, I was impressed with the good plotting, acting, and excellent crisp direction on them.  Especially good is the series of Alfred Hitchcock shows, but others, too.  (And I've even seen plot thefts from those old shows in modern stuff.)

By comparison, the soap-opera format of modern shows stinks.  Seems I can go make a sandwich in the time between the delivery of lines.  (And bring up the crappy music between those lines.)

But I have the same problem as someone else with "The Rifleman."  I loved it as a kid, but I saw enough of the re-runs now as an adult that I think too much of it was over the top moralizing.

Oh, oh, and that "throwing" of the gun as they shoot the guy off the horse at 100 yard (as another poster pointed out) always irked me almost as much as Broderick Crawford in "Highway Patrol" knocking down someone from 100 yards with a snap shot from his snubby .38, ten-four.

But they're still fun, and it's neat to recognize people like Leonard Nimoy  on "Sea Hunt," playing a bad guy.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2015, 07:38:35 PM »
Here... Because crushed dreams are best when trampled a bit more, and the fragments ground into the dust.  >:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMX4LiEKmu0

She actually aged fairly well considering she has to be in her 70's or 80's in that clip....
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2015, 07:53:57 PM »
For the old western fans do some searching on the Hollywood fast draw. Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr. were two of the quickest and we owe it all to Arvo Ojala.

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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2015, 08:10:34 PM »
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Re: Another illusion shattered
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2015, 09:07:46 PM »
Clearly, I've always been better at picking my celebrity crushes than you.

I think she looks pretty good for her age, I bet she is pushing 60 years old.
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