Country needs to be on war footing against global warming:

[Desertdog]

I just wonder what these guys are sniffing, smoking or drinking to really believe that man is really powerful enough to change the climate.


Country needs to be on war footing against global warming: Labour leader
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/12/061112110220.52bzhvek.html
 


The government needs to rally its people to fight a "war" against global warming much the way it mobilized for World War II, a leading member of the Labour Party has said.
Michael Meacher, a former environment minister who last week launched a campaign to move the Labour Party in a new direction, told GMTV television Sunday that action on climate change could provide the "new vision" the party needed.

 

"This is the one overriding overall political issue which challenges the future of the human species on this planet," said Meacher, who has refused to rule out a challenge for the Labour leadership.

"We are very good in this country at getting behind a collective cause which we all know has to be absolutely hugely overridingly important, as we did in 1939," Meacher said.

"I think we are at war over climate change and I think we can lead the country."

He declined to rule out a challenge to Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown, the favorite to succeed Prime Minister Tony Blair when he steps down by September, saying the issue was "for tomorrow not for today."

The priority was to outline a clear policy program as Labour faces a resurgent opposition Conservative party.

"The most important thing is that we have a new vision, a set of principles which can actually fire the imagination and galvanise our party again and I am convinced that that is combating climate change," he added.

He said the government's refusal to include such regular scrutiny in new climate change legislation was "a mistake".

A Climate Change Bill will be unveiled in next week's Queen's Speech, which announces the new legislative season, but is not expected to contain the firm yearly targets demanded by environmental campaigners.

Meacher said the bill should set a three percent annual reduction target for businesses and individuals and ensure the government was forced to report progress each year.
 

[HankB]

Here we go again . . .

Man-made "Global warming" is a scam, a smokescreen to grab more money from people. Note that most "global warming" proposals include the buying and selling of "pollution credits" or "carbon credits" according to a formula that requires countries like the USA to pay money to pestilential turd world dungheap nations run by kleptocrats in order to atone for our wickedness. 

The Brits are proposing to tax their own people more heavily . . . if a Brit has a nice car or larger house, he's going to pay even more under the proposals being floated there, with "global warming" as an excuse.

It's largely a new excuse to fleece people who've worked harder to get ahead.

As for terming it a "war footing" . . . that's calculated to rouse the patriotic fervor that let Brits accept  sacrifices during WWII and the Blitz, except "global warming" sacrifices (taxes) won't go away.

Ever.

And that's the point.

[Art Eatman]

While I believe that the measurement of atmospheric CO2 is reasonably indicative that homo sap is contributory to Globular Worming, most of the proposed "solutions" are not particularly effective.  IMO, short-term or long-term.  There's no provision to deal with China or the developing countries.

As proposed, it's merely a way to create a watermelon world:  Green on the outside, red on the inside.  Ever more increase of governmental power over daily life.

Art

[El Tejon]

I can change the climate with my mind.

If you pay me enough, I will make it Spring again.  So, keep sending me money and when I deem I have received enough, I will make it Spring (in the Northern Hemisphere).

[wingnutx]

I would support a Manhatten Project style program to get us off of foreign oil, and if that affected global warming as a side effect then I guess that would be nice.

[roo_ster]

I thought the USA missed the boat when the USSR imploded & did not buy each & every scrap of uranium & plutonium when we had the chance.

Then, when the (political) climate is right, build a potful of nuke reactors witht he fissile material & boil water for steam turbines until the cows come home.

[Standing Wolf]

Michael Meacher, a former environment minister who last week launched a campaign to move the Labour Party in a new direction, told GMTV television Sunday that action on climate change could provide the "new vision" the party needed.

Wrong. England is already headed straight down.

[Art Eatman]

I was reading just today that England is responsible for about two percent (2%) of world output of CO2.  So, since cars are just part of that output, even if they totally quit driving anything forever, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.  The per-year incremental increase in output by China, alone, exceeds all of England.

Art

[Silver Bullet]

http://www.amazon.com/State-Fear-Michael-Crichton/dp/B000HOJGL8/sr=1-2/qid=1163565860/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-4496290-0388826?ie=UTF8&s=books

[Volt]

I have a couple of degrees in Environmental Biology/Science and this political nonsense really bothers me and it tarnishes my field of science. Environmental Science is field that is being manipulated by the Left to attempt to justify their ideology. Trust me however when I tell you that you want environmental responsibility.

We need to get off of foreign oil for many reasons. I would rank the reasons in the order of security, political sovereignty, economics, and then environmental.

The technology exists today.

[Art Eatman]

Yeah, the technology exists.  The big problem is the decision on which one to use on a nationwide basis, and then whatever nationwide distributing system for whichever fuel that IC engines or (e.g.) fuel cells are designed for.

Gasohol?  No.  Not enough raw material for a nationwide sole-fuel usage.  Same problem for biodiesel.  They're fine for local areas, but not if you want to drive from Maine to SoCalif.

Odds are, conversion from coal is the optimum compromise for the long-term.  That's the one material of which we have a supply which is measured in centuries.  The "gasoline" equivalent would require a minimum retrofit for carburetors and fuel injections.  Existing distribution systems could be used.

Hydrocarbon fuel cells look to be less complex than the hydrogen fuel cell.  The HFCs are some 30% more efficient than the conventional IC engine.

I don't like government messing, but tax disincentives on big, heavy vehicles that are not in commercial use would be one way of promoting the buying/use of more fuel-efficient vehicles of today's design.  Exemptions for farm and commercial use, of course.  We need some way to buy time for the new technology(s) to come into play in the marketplace.

Art

[stevelyn]

Here we go again . . .

Man-made "Global warming" is a scam, a smokescreen to grab more money from people. Note that most "global warming" proposals include the buying and selling of "pollution credits" or "carbon credits" according to a formula that requires countries like the USA to pay money to pestilential turd world dungheap nations run by kleptocrats in order to atone for our wickedness. 

The Brits are proposing to tax their own people more heavily . . . if a Brit has a nice car or larger house, he's going to pay even more under the proposals being floated there, with "global warming" as an excuse.

It's largely a new excuse to fleece people who've worked harder to get ahead.

As for terming it a "war footing" . . . that's calculated to rouse the patriotic fervor that let Brits accept  sacrifices during WWII and the Blitz, except "global warming" sacrifices (taxes) won't go away.

Ever.

And that's the point.

+1. Couldn't have said it better myself. The same idiocy is headed our way. Al Gore and the Democretins are going to implement the same thing if we let them.

[Antibubba]

I can change the climate with my mind.

If you pay me enough, I will make it Spring again.  So, keep sending me money and when I deem I have received enough, I will make it Spring (in the Northern Hemisphere).

Will you take a post-dated third party check?   

[El Tejon]

Anti, no but I will take magazines, ammunition, and Gunsite or Thunder Ranch gift certificates.

[Desertdog]

So far I am happy with global warming in my area.  Cool enough in the day to not need the cooler.  Warm enough at night to not need the heat, which is unusual for the middle of November.

My plan for clearing up the CO2 is "Plant Trees."  Trees take Co2, and with sunlight, transforms it to Oxygen.  Trees shade the ground which lowers the temperature and adds moisture to the air. 

[wingnutx]

I'd be pretty happy if it was a little cooler around here this time of year.

[Target Farget]

id go out and spray hairspray at the sky in my youth.. hoping for more tanning time!

[280plus]

Well, I know the less it stays below -4*F around here the better I'm liking it.