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RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« on: February 19, 2016, 11:42:34 PM »
And it will totally not infringe on your rights at all!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/19/a-comic-book-retailer-suggests-a-new-plan-for-gun-control/


So the proprietor of a Canadian comic book store decided to propose this cool new solution to AMERICA'S OUT OF CONTROL GUN CRIMEZ! All new guns would be equipped with RFID. Any time a [new] gun is detected at a bank, gas station, etc, the doors and/or teller windows would automatically lock and stuff. 'Cause it's not like people legally carrying guns need to come inside a business, right? It's not like criminals would get (or already have) old guns, right?



Thanks for figuring that one out for us Canada!!

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 12:54:18 AM »
Of course, one layer isn't enough to completely defeat rfid, but it does significantly reduce the distance required to read it.

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 12:57:07 AM »
Cloaks your gun, and gives it some bling. Noice!
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 02:30:13 AM »
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 04:50:37 AM »
Yeah, it's not like the internet exists that will tell criminals that said RFID system exists, as well as the exact spot and depth they need to drill with a 1/8" bit to disable it.

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 07:57:10 AM »
Yeah, it's not like the internet exists that will tell criminals that said RFID system exists, as well as the exact spot and depth they need to drill with a 1/8" bit to disable it.


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Physical note: I figure just about any gun frame could easily take a ¼” x  ½” hole drilled in it, with a rice-grain sized RFID dropped in and glued in place.  Prevent the chip from being drilled out by booby-trapping the thing? Maybe the “rice grain” nesting inside a capsule with other contents (like white phosphorus) that explode on contact with heat and air?
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 08:35:09 AM »


White phosphorus?  Explode in air?  Oh boy.  Guess I need to treat my drill bit nice and dunk that part of the gun in light oil for the process.

Not to mention that the 'booby trap' is quite likely to go off and toast the chip when shot.

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 12:47:54 PM »
Weren't we talking in the other thread about it being illegal to set booby traps? 
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2016, 12:50:38 PM »
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So. There’s a chip in every new gun in use.   If a bank or gas station has a scanner at the door,  cashiers can be automatically alerted whenever a gun enters the place, and the cashiers can simply seal  their  wickets, protecting themselves from any harm. Or, if the scanner reads “police weapon”   (they can be  coded to do this),  staff can probably relax a bit,, not just because  they know they’re not likely to be held up, but also in knowing there’s a professional “good guy with a gun”  on site who can intervene in case someone else causes trouble.

And,  if a  gun is used in  a robbery and  is identified by the chip,  Scanners can be (I understand) quite easily    programmed to respond when that chip  is read by another machine.
Yeah, because RFID's can't be replaced or reprogrammed. 
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2016, 12:52:44 PM »
The new fun thing to do would be to get a bunch of programmable RFID chips and program them to scream gun when scanned.  Carry a bag full around and place them all over the place. 
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2016, 01:04:44 PM »
The new fun thing to do would be to get a bunch of programmable RFID chips and program them to scream gun when scanned.  Carry a bag full around and place them all over the place. 

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2016, 01:25:00 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMwc1c0HRQ
:laugh:

I can see using a bunch of the chips while shopping around at the car dealership. 
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2016, 02:32:28 PM »
Sell reprogrammed chips on Ebay the week before finals every semester.

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2016, 02:36:43 PM »
To expand on Fistful's quote from the article.

Quote from: stupid floppy headed Canadian
Physical note: I figure just about any gun frame could easily take a ¼” x  ½” hole drilled in it, with a rice-grain sized RFID dropped in and glued in place.  Prevent the chip from being drilled out by booby-trapping the thing? Maybe the “rice grain” nesting inside a capsule with other contents (like white phosphorus) that explode on contact with heat and air? Some  would-be butcher kills  himself by trying to (criminally)  drill the “serial number” out of his booby-trapped weapon? Tough luck,  Bub.

So in the process of making gun violence go down you're telling me for the price of a Hi-Point or Raven I can get a chunk of explosive big enough to be an anti personnel IED? 

Well, good thing that can't be misused.

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2016, 02:54:09 PM »
We use RFID keys for several doors at work.  Damn things don't work as advertised. Can't waive your ID at the reader and only pause for a second.  Nope, gotta run your ID on the reader to get just the right spot to key the door.  Wanna make this the basis for your security?  Good luck
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 11:51:36 AM »
 There are two Laws the Left is in denial about.
 The Law of Unintended Consequences.
 The Law of Diminishing Returns.

To illustrate of the first, I present the comments above.

 As an example of the second, California is trying to pass a bill that will designate anything that can be manufactured into a firearm, AS a firearm.

 

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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2016, 12:29:37 PM »
How many seconds in a microwave oven does it take to fry an RFID chip?
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2016, 12:48:09 PM »
Forget the microwave.

What would the standard run of oils and solvents we use to clean our guns do to what of those chips?

I would think a couple drops of break cleaner (or Gun Scrubber, if you want to be fancy) would kill it.
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2016, 01:11:56 PM »
There are two Laws the Left is in denial about.
 The Law of Unintended Consequences.
 The Law of Diminishing Returns.


Their denial is, of course, much more ambitious than a mere 2 laws.
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Re: RFID in guns will totally fix things!
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 08:38:29 PM »
There are two Laws the Left is in denial about.
 The Law of Unintended Consequences.
 The Law of Diminishing Returns.

To illustrate of the first, I present the comments above.

 As an example of the second, California is trying to pass a bill that will designate anything that can be manufactured into a firearm, AS a firearm.

 
And I guess firearms would be expanded to include bow and arrows, blow guns, pipe, air compressors, rubber bands, etc, etc.
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