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Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« on: February 24, 2016, 09:51:02 AM »
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/02/24/467848568/more-rural-hospitals-are-closing-their-maternity-units?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=science

The other interesting thing that they failed to mention is the cost of malpractice insurance for delivering babies, for both the hospital and the medical providers.  Unless you have a sufficient volume of deliveries to amortize the cost over a good-sized number, you are paying a tidy figure per delivery just for the insurance.  I would agree, however, that the primary reason is finding the medical and nursing staffing.
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 10:06:22 AM »
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Medicaid pays for slightly under half of all births in the United States, but in rural areas the proportion is often higher, says Kozhimannil. Since Medicaid pays about half as much as private insurance for childbirth, "the financial aspect of keeping a labor and delivery unit open is harder in rural areas," she says.

I do suspect this has much to do with it, along with gov't interventions of other sorts that drive up costs. 
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 10:48:15 AM »
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Medicaid pays for slightly under half of all births in the United States, but in rural areas the proportion is often higher

Think about the implications of this beyond the article.

Roughly half. HALF of all births in this country are to individuals whose income is 133% percent of poverty. Keep in mind that only 20% of the nation is on medicaid, additionally.

Now, let's add that to the other problems associated with poverty: absent fathers, drug abuse, hostility to education, et al... and this is a signal of significant problems for the next generation, given that those factors have tended to lock children into the poverty cycle of their parents.

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And now for the extremely cynical view. HOORAY! Another problem to be ignored by our myopic, selfish, pleasure NOW!!11!! society!

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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 11:07:11 AM »
Welcome to Uh-merica.

Where the future inhabitants are surly third-world descent ethnics living off the carcass of a formerly great nation.  Sort of like bedouin "mining" the great edifices of Alexandria for marble & stone to erect their rude dwellings.

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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 11:47:47 AM »
I think I heard someone joke that it is getting to the point that Neal Diamond albums are more common in black households in the US than two parents. 
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 01:49:48 PM »
I think I heard someone joke that it is getting to the point that Neal Diamond albums are more common in black households in the US than two parents.  

Off the top of my head, I believe it's 20% of black children are born into a family with a married mother and father.
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 02:25:43 PM »
This may be just some weird idea I picked up, but aren't high risk pregnancy and deliverys more common these days?

 I would imagine a lot of those rural areas have a high rate of mothers with drug and drinking problems and teenage pregnancy. Plus, at the other end of the age spectrum, many woman are having babies as they get older. All things that contribute to higher risk pregnancies that require more care and more specialization than a local general practitioner would have.
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 02:28:27 PM »
BTW, guys, I'm betting most of the rural areas being discussed the majority of the population is white. So the Neil Diamond joke was probably unnecessary.  ;/
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 03:57:45 PM »
BTW, guys, I'm betting most of the rural areas being discussed the majority of the population is white. So the Neil Diamond joke was probably unnecessary.  ;/

Additionally, black children only make up 16% of births, so even if every single black child was born on medicaid (note: they aren't, but hypothetically), they wouldn't even make up half of the births on medicaid.

Speaking from experience, there are a lot of white "families" that fit my description of "absent fathers, drug abuse, hostility to education, et al..." It's a universal problem: more prevalent in minority communities, but afflicting all races, to varying degrees.
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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2016, 07:18:48 PM »
that is terrible.  Where will the illegal aliens go to have their babies?

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Re: Rural hospitals are closing maternity wards
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2016, 07:40:19 PM »
Additionally, black children only make up 16% of births, so even if every single black child was born on medicaid (note: they aren't, but hypothetically), they wouldn't even make up half of the births on medicaid.

Speaking from experience, there are a lot of white "families" that fit my description of "absent fathers, drug abuse, hostility to education, et al..." It's a universal problem: more prevalent in minority communities, but afflicting all races, to varying degrees.

Less variance now than ever.  Sadly


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