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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2016, 11:54:09 PM »
So, with no ID how do you make an I-9 verification to get a job? How about get benefits? The cost in my state for a non driving state ID card is trivial. Someone cares so much about voting but can't contribute anywhere else in society?


This,  Screw' em.

Those people voting is a conflict of interest anyway.  They're parasites.  Parasites shouldn't get a say.
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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2016, 01:44:59 AM »
There's probably a number or reasons but the primary one is that African-Americans tend to vote Democrat and about 25% of African-American adults don't have valid government ID.  It sounds absurd to us but that's reality. 

And Republicans knew that more Democractic voters didn't have valid ID when they passed these laws.  It's not a secret.  This was done to suppress votes.  It worked.

I don't think this is something to cheer for.


Then you're playing the sap. If you, or anyone else, is so concerned about the voting rights of black Americans, then help them get the valid ID that will probably help them in many other areas of their lives. If the left cared about them, they'd "bring them out of the shadows," as they claim they want to do for illegal aliens.

FWIW, I don't begrudge black folk for wanting to stay under the radar, and off the books. But that doesn't square with wanting to vote. If you want to vote, it's not unreasonable for society to know who you are, and whether you are a citizen of your alleged voting precinct. Look at the voter registration process for a few states that don't have the terrible, soul-stealing, picture-ID requirement. They still ask for an address, and other identifying information. Yet requiring a card with a picture on it (which could easily be provided free upon registration, or in any place disadvantaged people go to for government assistance) is supposed to raise all of that to the level of voter suppression? In the 21st century? You cannot be serious.

Lastly, but most importantly, voting is not a human right. It is a very important civil right, but it is not a human right. It comes from the society that grants it. The same society could give the necessary ID, as well, to anyone who wants to play the game. If they don't want to play, they should not vote, and not whine about it.

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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2016, 01:58:23 AM »
The left claimed fraud voter suppression in WI and the left, especially the ACLU, looked very hard for instances of people being denied their vote. In a state of 5 million, they only found 1, a 90-some year old lady who claimed that she didn't have a birth certificate, never had a DL, and who refused to get the correct documents. The aclu sued on her behalf claiming that obtaining a Birth certificate was the same thing as paying a poll tax ;/ they shopped for the biggest liberal idiot judge they could find and were able to get an injunction against our voter id law. The old lady died before it went to court. Thankfully, the law was eventually upheld by the state supreme court.
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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2016, 10:00:24 AM »
It is not some Herculean task to get an ID unless you haven't got the other documentation. That ID is paramount for multiple nessesities for everyday life in this country.

If they don't have an ID then they have much bigger problems that not being able to vote. Let them deal with that and when they get it sorted, well, then they can vote too. Isn't that nice.

I have no sympathy for them and to continue going on and on about it is rediculous. If a person can deal with being a grown up, then why the *expletive deleted*ck should I care about them voting?

And as far as the Democrats go, maybe they should ask themselves why they need to go through these measures to get "their" voters to the polls. Oh, right! It's because they need lazy, Joe slob who doesn't give a *expletive deleted*it about civic duty to be pushed into the polling place since they can't order the rest of us to do what they want.
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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2016, 11:57:09 AM »
There's probably a number or reasons but the primary one is that African-Americans tend to vote Democrat and about 25% of African-American adults don't have valid government ID.  It sounds absurd to us but that's reality.  

And Republicans knew that more Democractic voters didn't have valid ID when they passed these laws.  It's not a secret.  This was done to suppress votes.  It worked.

I don't think this is something to cheer for.
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Re: Democrat Turnout Drop Coincides with Stronger Voter ID Laws
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2016, 05:06:55 PM »
As I said, I've got no problem at all with people staying "in the shadows." I don't look down on them for it. But try to tell me they need to be able to vote from the shadows, and you can take that somewhere else.
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