Author Topic: No one needs those high-capacity clips (Read 4686 times)

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2016, 08:16:48 AM »

Quote from: bluestarlizzard on April 12, 2016, 07:29:30 AM

For the semi autos, agreed.

Even revolvers.

With .22 rimfire, the reliability problem is more with the ammo than with the firearm.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:33:55 AM »

Quote from: Mannlicher on April 13, 2016, 08:14:32 AM

what is a high capacity clip? I mean I am familiar with pistol and rifle magazines that hold an adequate number of cartridges, but not the mythical 'hi capacity' ones. Laughing :)

Maybe they are talking about the 10 round stripper clips for 223 or the SKS stripper clips. They may think 10 rounds is too many.

Tuco · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2016, 01:34:50 PM »

Apart from swabbing the bore and wiping down the metal, my Remington 552 (Circa 1976?1978? reverse checkering and sickening varnish) has digested everything I've jammed down the tube. Bricks and bricks and bricks. Usually Remington, sometimes CCI.

In early 2000's, I did a full teardown, because I got my own house and tools and internets with exploded diagrams. Pulled a Frito-sized chunk of residue off the case deflector, rinsed and lubed the moving parts and put it together.

Still shoots fine. In 40 years of use, a period of that time rusting in an unheated garage, I cannot ever recall a fail to feed. A few fail to fire, but that wasn't the gun.

Not my go to weapon for anything but the gravel pit, but it's been rock solid.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #28 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:08:00 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on April 13, 2016, 09:33:55 AM

Maybe they are talking about the 10 round stripper clips for 223 or the SKS stripper clips. They may think 10 rounds is too many.

Obviously, when I wrote the title, I was referring to the thirty-caliber clips that are killing all of those people in California. They even framed a state senator, and sent him to prison.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #29 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:50:54 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on April 13, 2016, 08:16:48 AM

Even revolvers.

With .22 rimfire, the reliability problem is more with the ammo than with the firearm.

There is reasonably reliable ammo out there, and with a revolver, if the first shot is a dud, you can pull the trigger again, which negates some of the flaws of a semi auto .22 for defensive purposes.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #30 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:29:05 PM »

Quote from: Mannlicher on April 13, 2016, 08:14:32 AM

what is a high capacity clip?

One of these?

Nah, that couldn't be it.

230RN · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2016, 05:37:11 PM »

Quote

So, better than a sharp stick but RF for defense is never choice one.

Don't miss my premise:

Quote from: 230RN on April 12, 2016, 05:23:10 AM

I still think a 10/22 with a 20 round mag would make a good HD gun for the elderly, infirm, or persons of limited means.

I would add: "Folks who are not intimately familiar with firearms," per Angel Eyes' post above. :D

Terry, 230RN

230RN · « **Reply #32 on:** April 13, 2016, 05:41:51 PM »

Double post.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #33 on:** April 13, 2016, 06:32:51 PM »

Quote from: fistful on April 13, 2016, 02:08:00 PM

They even framed a state senator, and sent him to prison.

230RN · « **Reply #34 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:31:42 PM »

For some of those a-hat Legislators, one round is too high a capacity. I'd call them schmucks but some of them are wimminses.

dogmush · « **Reply #35 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:48:53 PM »

Honestly, and I know it's a gun forum thing, but I think we can honestly call things like a Beta C-Mag a "High-Capacity" magazine. A 100 rds in a weapon that normally carries 20 or 30 seems "Hi-Cap".

I recently had to recommend a .22LR pistol to an lady of my acquaintance. Her arthritis has gotten bad enough that she can't shoot even tame handguns.

French G. · « **Reply #36 on:** April 14, 2016, 09:35:30 PM »

All this talk about rimfire reliability makes me invent a new gun in my head, time for a .25ACP version of a 10/22. About as useless as a .32 subgun, but hey, I want one.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #37 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:24:29 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on April 14, 2016, 07:48:53 PM

Honestly, and I know it's a gun forum thing, but I think we can honestly call things like a Beta C-Mag a "High-Capacity" magazine. A 100 rds in a weapon that normally carries 20 or 30 seems "Hi-Cap".

Are there people that don't want us to call them that?

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #38 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:25:29 PM »

Quote from: French G. on April 14, 2016, 09:35:30 PM

All this talk about rimfire reliability makes me invent a new gun in my head, time for a .25ACP version of a 10/22. About as useless as a .32 subgun, but hey, I want one.

I am reminded of Jeff Cooper's famous comment about shooting someone with a .25.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:38:04 PM »

Quote from: French G. on April 14, 2016, 09:35:30 PM

All this talk about rimfire reliability makes me invent a new gun in my head, time for a .25ACP version of a 10/22. About as useless as a .32 subgun, but hey, I want one.

I heard that people who like the Federal 327 Magnum might be politicking for a lever gun in that caliber.

roo_ster · « **Reply #40 on:** April 14, 2016, 11:01:57 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on April 14, 2016, 10:38:04 PM

I heard that people who like the Federal 327 Magnum might be politicking for a lever gun in that caliber.

Father in law bought a 327fedmag to kill snakes around the house. He hated it until i bought and delivered to him some 32long wadcutters. Now he likes it since it isnt ear splittingly loud. This c9ming from a nearly deaf man.

Blakenzy · « **Reply #41 on:** April 15, 2016, 08:06:17 AM »

Regarding .22LR reliablity, ammo selection is paramount. Bulk ammo is a no-no. I have had 100% reliability with thouands of rounds from one brand, and at worst a rather consistent 1% faliure rate from another.

I think that if you need low recoil and reliability, I would go with .32auto over .22LR, or .25ACP or .22WMR for that matter.

birdman · « **Reply #42 on:** April 15, 2016, 08:52:47 AM »

Quote from: Blakenzy on April 15, 2016, 08:06:17 AM

Regarding .22LR reliablity, ammo selection is paramount. Bulk ammo is a no-no. I have had 100% reliability with thouands of rounds from one brand, and at worst a rather consistent 1% faliure rate from another.

I think that if you need low recoil and reliability, I would go with .32auto over .22LR, or .25ACP or .22WMR for that matter.

Absolutely.
Best example:
P22.
Has issues with...well, just about everything, except CCI blazer.
Once I switched to that...the thing is a beast, regardless of cleanliness

French G. · « **Reply #43 on:** April 16, 2016, 10:38:21 AM »

On CCI, I don't necessarily buy by the brand, but by the priming. CCI is top notch, so is Eley priming. And Aguila uses an Eley priming system.

lee n. field · « **Reply #44 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:39:03 AM »

Quote from: French G. on April 14, 2016, 09:35:30 PM

All this talk about rimfire reliability makes me invent a new gun in my head, time for a .25ACP version of a 10/22. About as useless as a .32 subgun, but hey, I want one.

I recall on one of the gunboards there was a guy who had a .25ACP version of a Ruger Blackhawk built up.

just Warren · « **Reply #45 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:39:57 PM »

That's like putting a Stuart turret on a Tiger II.

French G. · « **Reply #46 on:** April 16, 2016, 06:00:33 PM »

Back in the hi-cap clip world, I looked in my safe the other day, I forgot how many garand clips of AP will fit in a USGI 3 mag/2-grenade pouch. It makes me

MechAg94 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 16, 2016, 07:59:14 PM »

Quote from: birdman on April 15, 2016, 08:52:47 AM

Absolutely.
Best example:
P22.
Has issues with...well, just about everything, except CCI blazer.
Once I switched to that...the thing is a beast, regardless of cleanliness

I have heard about 22 pistols being finicky, but I have shot Ruger Mk I, II, and 22/45 pistols. Never had an issue shooting any ammo as long as it wasn't dud. The only issue was not cleaning it. The 10/22 I would say the same aside from really dirty lubed ammo that gunks things up.

French G. · « **Reply #48 on:** April 17, 2016, 04:05:39 PM »

Quote from: roo_ster on April 14, 2016, 11:01:57 PM

Father in law bought a 327fedmag to kill snakes around the house. He hated it until i bought and delivered to him some 32long wadcutters. Now he likes it since it isnt ear splittingly loud. This c9ming from a nearly deaf man.

So like a .30 carbine Redhawk? I don't remember it, but my dad had one, he still grimaces 30 years after trading it when he recalls the noise.

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Author Topic: No one needs those high-capacity clips (Read 4686 times)