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New pistol.
« on: March 25, 2016, 12:58:00 AM »
Got a SITES Spectre HC pistol, no thanks to you guys.  :P It's pretty awesome. Got it for a big reason because it's in the N64 game Goldeneye, the other reason due to it's rarity and that it is just a sweet looking and unique firearm. Known as the Phantom in game. Also a big reason why I got my VZ-61 Skorpion, just need to get a tax stamp for it so I can attach my stock. The mag in there is the 50 round coffin mag, I also have the 30 round mag. It currently has some tire tubing around it for grip, put on by the previous owner and I just haven't taken it off yet. Rubber thing on the grip was also added but I'll keep that on because it actually feels nice. It is suprisingly heavy, almost all in the back, but it feels balanced. Haven't shot it yet but I hear because of the weight it is pleasant to shoot. I also won't be able to shoot it for probably three years when I get back from Japan. :'( One thing I'll be on the lookout for is the folding stock. The original ful-auto versions had a folding stock that folded flat on top of it and there was also a foregrip attachment, obviously none of these would go on without proper documentation. :police: From what I hear the stock can cost as much as the gun itself, paid about $1500 for it, no box or anything, with the mags. Speaking of mags, those are pretty spendy. I know the 30 rounders can go for around $250, not sure about the 50s. I really need to get a second charging handle, I need to ask my Spectre parts guy if he's got any in stock. For some reason they made those out of plastic. They are known to break, and I can tell why. It feels really cheap. Can't understand why they would do that when everything else seems pretty well built.
Fun facts: They were only imported by two companies, FIE and American Arms, Inc. Mine is the American Arms. They are identical except the FIE chamber end OD is slightly larger and won't fit into AA rear bbl support. Also, some very early FIE guns have thicker wall magwell steel and will only accept a very rare thin wall magazine. The finish on the FIE pistol has a painted black lacquer type finish and the AA Spectres finish is a dark gray park. FIE went out of business in 1990, due to the first "Assault Weapons" ban and American Arms bought the rights to import the Sperctre. They imported all the calibers 9mm, .40S&W and the .45ACP. being the rarest. There was only 1,000 9mm, 300 .40S&W, and 100 .45ACPs imported. The AA .40S&W can have feeding issues with the blunt nose ammo apparently. The magazines are modified 9mm mags, the feed lips, and hold 22rds instead of 30rds. They didn't convert 50rd mags because they couldn't get them to feed. You can convert a 9mm Spectre to .40S&W or vise vers by changing the barrel, bolt and magazine. You can't convert a .45ACP  because it has a spot welded in adapter for the 2 column mag. The .45 is dedicated to it's caliber. I have a mag for the .45 also, because why not? Due to the rarity I figure I might as well jump at the chance to get a mag for one. :) Also, the mags just fall right out when the mag release is pressed. That second lever to the rear is a decocker, the trigger can act as a double action if used.

There is a great field stripping and review video here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M_deIpqGY0 Great as in it's the only field stripping video and they go into some detail, although the guys are kind of annoying. How the bolt works is pretty unique. I've don't know of any other firearm that operates like that.
Here she is!
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 09:46:48 AM »
Can ya have a cocking handle machined out of aluminum and set aside the original?
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 10:49:41 AM »
Really cool gun!

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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 11:24:25 AM »
never heard of it.  interesting.
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 01:38:30 PM »
Can ya have a cocking handle machined out of aluminum and set aside the original?


That would probably be a good idea. Might have to look into that.

Also, I will never be using the FFL, some pawn shop, that I had used to get it transferred to me. The guy at the counter doing the paperwork was alright, he actually even knew what it was and had mentioned about 10 years ago he almost bought one. But the owner apparently doesn't do "thug guns" and if he knew what it was before it came in never would of done it. ;/
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2016, 02:02:16 PM »
Neat!
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Known as the Phantom in game. Also a big reason why I got my VZ-61 Skorpion,
Also neat....but does it spit out 5.56 brass?
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 02:13:22 PM »
Neat!Also neat....but does it spit out 5.56 brass?

lol. Matrix reference? Mine didn't come with that feature. :laugh:
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 02:45:06 PM »
I had a shot at a Steyr SPP back in '96 for only $600...

I should have bought it.  :P
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 06:17:48 PM »
I had a shot at a Steyr SPP back in '96 for only $600...

I should have bought it.  :P

Looks like I just added another pistol on my To Buy List. lol
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 07:45:46 PM »
Cool looking pistol...look forward to a shooting report.
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2016, 08:06:12 PM »
Cool looking pistol...look forward to a shooting report.

Me too! lol
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2016, 08:28:44 PM »
freakazoid, here's a couple of 50 round Spectre mags for sale if your still looking. I don't know what the going rate is but that price seems insane to me.

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?355693-WTS-Sites-Spectre-50rd-9mm-coffin-mags-NOS-RARE
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Re: New pistol.
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 10:31:04 PM »
freakazoid, here's a couple of 50 round Spectre mags for sale if your still looking. I don't know what the going rate is but that price seems insane to me.

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?355693-WTS-Sites-Spectre-50rd-9mm-coffin-mags-NOS-RARE

$350 for each. I think they are a little on the high side. Not sure if the chrome follower makes it special, possible. Nice condition though, doesn't come with their box which is a bummer. I paid $250 for my 30 rounder. And I have a lead on some 50 rounders for $225. But, I am currently unable to spend the cash for them, pretty sure my wife would flip if she found out. lol Thanks for the heads up though! Probably in a few years I'll look back and be wishing I had bought it for that price. lol
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

"I see a rager at least once a week." - brimic