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Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« on: May 08, 2016, 11:46:33 AM »
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/04/476725918/-campus-carry-gun-bill-is-vetoed-in-georgia-with-a-lengthy-explanation

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/6/1523854/-Georgia-Governor-vetoes-campus-carry-bill-using-Thomas-Jefferson-quote

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/05/thomas-jefferson-founding-fathers-campus-carry/

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In October of 1824, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison attended a board meeting of the University of Virginia, which would open the following spring. Jefferson and Madison had spent not a little time thinking about individual liberties. But minutes from the meeting show that their new school would not extend the right to bear arms to its red-brick grounds.

“No student shall, within the precincts of the University, introduce, keep or use any spirituous or vinous liquors, keep or use weapons or arms of any kind …” the board declared. In his veto statement, Deal zeroed in on that passage, which can be seen in the original document below:

I guess they are worried dueling will make a comeback among college students. 
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2016, 01:00:15 PM »
A couple more quotes by Jefferson re arms-

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
 - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
 - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2016, 01:55:27 AM »

Make sure we don't confuse terms.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2016, 11:53:56 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on May 08, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
I guess they are worried dueling will make a comeback among college students.

Maybe they've noticed that plenty of college students wouldn't be able to figure out which way to hold a gun.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2016, 12:25:27 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on May 09, 2016, 11:53:56 AM
Maybe they've noticed that plenty of college students wouldn't be able to figure out which way to hold a gun.

That is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2016, 12:32:40 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on May 09, 2016, 01:55:27 AM

Make sure we don't confuse terms.

Those would be handy dealing with lefty rioters at the GOP convention in Cleveland. 

Memphis, Texas, Carolina, KC all have their own style of BBQ.  What about Cleveland?
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2016, 01:02:45 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on May 09, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
Those would be handy dealing with lefty rioters at the GOP convention in Cleveland. 

Memphis, Texas, Carolina, KC all have their own style of BBQ.  What about Cleveland?

Cleveland is a chili town I believe.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 05:30:46 PM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on May 09, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
Cleveland is a chili town I believe.

But those firearms would warm Cleveland up pretty quickly! [popcorn]
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2016, 07:19:47 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on May 09, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
Those would be handy dealing with lefty rioters at the GOP convention in Cleveland. 

Memphis, Texas, Carolina, KC all have their own style of BBQ.  What about Cleveland?

I believe it's the Cleveland Steamer....
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2016, 10:27:58 PM »
Governor Deal may kiss my hind parts.  All the Jefferson quotes he can cite are a pitiful figleaf.  I live in an adjoining State, and I'm not sure if he can or will stand for reelection.  I hope so, that I might contribute to his opponent.

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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 10:51:46 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on May 09, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
I believe it's the Cleveland Steamer....

Now I've got to clean the tea off of my tablet! :lol:
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2016, 09:19:29 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on May 09, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
I believe it's the Cleveland Steamer....

Whatever you do don't google that...Cleveland is not really know for its chili, more for their Pierogies, kielbasas, Polish Boys, and corn beef.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2016, 09:24:51 AM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on May 09, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
Cleveland is a chili town I believe.

You may be thinking of Cincinnati and its Skyline Chili franchises.
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Re: Georgia governor vetoes campus carry bill using Thomas Jefferson quote
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 09:32:55 AM »
Quote from: Ron on May 10, 2016, 09:24:51 AM
You may be thinking of Cincinnati and its Skyline Chili franchises.

Skyline, Goldstar (yech) and multiple mom & pop chili places.
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