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Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« on: November 01, 2017, 07:06:13 PM »
https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/11/1/16592488/world-series-gambler-14-million-game-7-winning-every-game-dodgers-astros

Apparently someone has been going around betting on all the current World Series games, and winning. Currently up to 14 million in winnings. Proof of a Biff Tannen, you decide.  =D
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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 01:50:19 PM »
Since there are no faces to read as when "sittin' at the table," y' gotta play the mechanics:

Assuming equal probability of either team winning any particular game... they're equally good, in other words (that's how each of them got to the world series, after all)...

... then the probability of either team winning is P=0.5 for each of them.

For six games, the probability of guessing right for six games in a row is...

0.56 = 0.015625, is the probability of "hitting" six wins in a row just by guessing randomly.  64 to 1 odds.  But it's not impossible.

Probably figured he could afford to lose the original bet amount and just let it ride.

I'm chicken.  I would have just bet half my winnings from the previous guesses.

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 04:18:27 AM »
I just shuffled a deck of cards.  Given the insanely low probability of any of the possible arrangements of 52 cards, I'm forced to conclude that the deck ceased to exist rather than fall into any of those arrangements.

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 05:46:55 AM »
^
If I remember right, that's 52!<this is a factorial symbol.


52! = 8.0658175170943878571660636856404e+67 possible combinations in a deck of 52 cards.

For a probability for any given arrangement to occur of:

P = 1.2397999308571485923950341988946e-68
(P = 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000012398)

You're right! <not a factorial symbol
  Since the probability of any combination is so vanishingly small, the deck must vanish! <not a factorial symbol

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 07:31:36 AM »
I just shuffled a deck of cards.  Given the insanely low probability of any of the possible arrangements of 52 cards, I'm forced to conclude that the deck ceased to exist rather than fall into any of those arrangements.

Hmmm... that gives me an idea for a spaceship engine.  I think I will call it the Improbability Drive.
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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 12:17:21 AM »
52! = 8.0658175170943878571660636856404e+67 possible combinations in a deck of 52 cards.

And only about 1078 atoms in the universe.

If you rearranged a 52 card deck once per second, without repeating any arrangement, it would take about 2.5x1060 years to go through them all.  If every human shuffled once per second for 500 years, we'd only have 9x1019 combinations, so odds are - quite overwhelmingly - every time you properly shuffle a deck, you're creating a totally new and unique pattern of cards.

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 12:48:46 AM »

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If you rearranged a 52 card deck once per second, without repeating any arrangement it would take about 2.5x1060 years to go through them all.

...


But the bolded clause is unneccesary.  The probability of repeating an arrangement is

(1.239799930857148592395034198894e-68)2, or
1.5371038685533904304366275737176e-136.

And even if it did happen, it would only take an extra second in that 2.5x1060 years, a negligible error of only 1.2683916793505834601725012683917-1066 percent.

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 07:31:05 AM »
But the bolded clause is unneccesary.  The probability of repeating an arrangement is

(1.239799930857148592395034198894e-68)2, or
1.5371038685533904304366275737176e-136.

And even if it did happen, it would only take an extra second in that 2.5x1060 years, a negligible error of only 1.2683916793505834601725012683917-1066 percent.

Terry


Only at the beginning.

As the shuffling continues the odds of getting duplicate arraignments climb.  Towards the end the odds of getting the last couple unique arraignments (without cheating) are so low that you need to start worrying about the heat-death of the universe interrupting your experiment.

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 07:34:58 AM »
And only about 1078 atoms in the universe.

If you rearranged a 52 card deck once per second, without repeating any arrangement, it would take about 2.5x1060 years to go through them all.  If every human shuffled once per second for 500 years, we'd only have 9x1019 combinations, so odds are - quite overwhelmingly - every time you properly shuffle a deck, you're creating a totally new and unique pattern of cards.

That's, quite fascinating. :O
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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 02:52:58 AM »
I love how we go from gambling to heat death of the universe in less than one page.    :laugh:
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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 11:44:04 AM »
I love how we go from gambling to heat death of the universe in less than one page.    :laugh:

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Re: Mysterious World Series gambler, or proof of a time traveler!!
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 11:50:23 AM »
I love how we go from gambling to heat death of the universe in less than one page.    :laugh:

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