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Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« on: February 28, 2018, 11:25:48 AM »

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article202325534.html

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While security personnel brought Jones to the floor, Garces took the gun out of his hand. Then police arrived after responding to a call reporting a man holding dozens of people hostage in the chapel of the mission, just before 9 a.m. on Feb. 14.

“I said: ‘Hey, hey, I got the gun. I took the gun away from him,’” Garces told KVII. “[The police] said throw it down. I wasn’t going to throw it down because it could have fired. It had bullets in it, you know. I didn’t want anyone else getting hurt. ... Then pop, pop, they shot me. ... I went down, then a puddle of blood. ... I thought I was a goner.”

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But Tony Garces, an ex-con, took his shirt off and confronted the gunman, according to a news release from Amarillo police.

Uh, OK.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 11:29:44 AM »
I feel bad the  man got shot, but he should have obeyed the police command and released the gun. The police see a man with a gun,  he doesn't obey their commands  ...  bad happens.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 12:34:26 PM »
I feel bad the  man got shot, but he should have obeyed the police command and released the gun. The police see a man with a gun,  he doesn't obey their commands  ...  bad happens.
Or do the alternative and just set it down on the ground.  Might still get shot, but he would have a better argument.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 01:54:14 PM »
At least try "Yes, officer, I'm putting the gun down now" as you slowly set it down.

May not work, but it's better than just not complying.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 02:46:19 PM »
Or do the alternative and just set it down on the ground.  Might still get shot, but he would have a better argument.

Well, I said "release the gun" .... I didn't say how....  :angel:
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 08:32:10 PM »
He has my thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 10:28:21 PM »
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 10:34:19 PM »
He has my thoughts and prayers.

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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 10:53:35 PM »
He has my thoughts and prayers.

So well played.

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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2018, 12:10:30 AM »
Among some people, tearing one's shirt off is a necessary preparation prior to combat.

As soon as you hear the sirens put the gun away unless you're actively shooting at a threat.  Budgets don't allow for good-guy detectors and on active shooter calls the plan is to kill the shooter.  You don't want to look like the shooter. 

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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2018, 10:28:55 AM »
Jokes aside (and there are plenty), this is why I don't like to carry my pretty guns as CCW pieces.  Cop tells me to drop it, I plan to drop it.  And I don't want to screw up my pretty guns.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2018, 09:49:49 PM »
no good deed goes unpunished.  I'll never be anyone's sheepdog.

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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2018, 11:23:17 AM »
no good deed goes unpunished.  I'll never be anyone's sheepdog.

Never did care for that whole "sheepdog" bullshit.
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Re: Man disarms attacker, and is shot by police
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2018, 05:54:13 PM »
Maybe it was a Sig P320... I wouldn't have dropped that one either.
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