Author Topic: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.  (Read 790 times)

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https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/02/Groupthink.pdf

It's over 100 pages so it'll be pretty comprehensive.


I found it through Taki's Mag from this article which has excerpts if you don't want to dive into the full PDF.

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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 05:23:04 PM »
So when does al gore return the Nobel prize money?
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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 05:42:10 PM »
Thank you for the links.  Some bedtime reading.

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-World-Climatism-ebook/dp/B0093N7PXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524087602&sr=8-1&keywords=mad%2C+mad+world+of+climate+change
I bought this book a few years ago.  It is not very long, but does a decent job of hitting the different facets/proofs of the issue and why global warming is generally wrong.  I could probably mail it to someone if you want to read it.  I ended up buying it after hearing an interview with the author.
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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2018, 06:34:46 PM »
"It's the sample size, stupid. Two hundred years out of 450,000 years don't cut it as 'evidence' of anything."  --Me.

My doubts about global warming started when I saw several graphs of various earth parameters relating to temperature plainly showing very regular, if very "noisy" cycles, of about 80,000 years over 450,000 years of data --and even some "sub-cycles" of about 11,000 years more or less.

While these temperatures were derived by various proxy methods and were "inaccurate" in terms of being able to point to a real thermometer, the sheer regularity of these cycles told a story, and they looked very much as if we were peaking in a warm period right now, with temperatures ready to drop again.

Yet when this global warming "thing" started to build up steam <ahem, koff-koff>, they were basing everything on only 200 years or so of accurate readings from real actual thermometers.

What was painfully obvious was that their 200-year sample was too small, and that it was only a tiny snippet from an inherently noisy long-term cyclic phenomenon.

Hence my attitude was, "It's the sample size, stupid!" when confronted by what was then known as the "Hockey Stick" model of global warming.

So I decided most of the Global Warming theories were based on data from the "Sales Department," rather than from the "Engineering Department" and would frequently wisecrack that "I'm not so sure about global warming.  Ask me again in 80,000 years."

All in all, I tend to agree with others that there are underlying political reasons for the "hype."

It's the sample size, stupid.  Ask me again in 80,000 years.

Terry

Note:  without developing my usual list of "REFs," a starting point would be a search on "vostok ice cores" in ixquick.com, not Google.

The Vostok ice core measurements were what got me started on the ridiculously small sample of the last 200 years as compared to almost half a million years of regular temperature variations.
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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2018, 06:49:53 PM »
So when does al gore return the Nobel prize money?

He'll have to wait in line behind Obama.
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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2018, 10:46:28 PM »
https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/02/Groupthink.pdf

It's over 100 pages so it'll be pretty comprehensive.


I found it through Taki's Mag from this article which has excerpts if you don't want to dive into the full PDF.


Reading through the summary article, looks like the main link ought to have a great many details.  The summary was pretty good by itself showing some of the lunacy of climate change. 
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Re: Here's a PDF on the lies and idiocies of the climate change crowd.
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2018, 10:48:19 PM »
From the article link in Warren's post:

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how do otherwise intelligent people come to believe such arrant nonsense despite its implausibility, internal contradictions, contradictory data, evident corruption and ludicrous policy implications.


That pretty well summarizes the situation.
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