Bernie backer beat up by Antifa

[Brad Johnson]

Bernie backer protesting Right Wing rally by displaying an American flag is beat down by Antifa thugs.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/21/bernie-sanders-supporter-protesting-right-wing-rally-with-american-flag-beaten-up-by-antifa-video-shows.html

Oh the sweet, sweet smell of irony. This will having them scratching their heads trying to find a way to spin it.

Brad

[makattak]

The best is that he was there to show that the right wing doesn't "own" the flag.

Seems Antifa disagreed with him.

[Firethorn]

I'll give the dude credit.  I mean, he is actually proud of the american flag. 

I hope the scum that hit him is caught, prosecuted, and convicted, much like the professor of ethics that 4chan caught.

Failing that, prosecute everybody wearing a mask that day as accessories.

You know, it used to be that it was the KKK wearing the masks.  Today, it is antifa, and the supposed "nazis" are the ones going plain faced, most of the time.

[brimic]

I don't know if to laugh or cry about this one...

[Hawkmoon]

I don't know if to laugh or cry about this one...

Tears of laughter ...

[Scout26]

It pisses me off.  I don't care about the dude's politics.  He went to the public square to express his views in a non-violent way (holding the American Flag).  A bunch of thugs were trying to deprive him of his property, and when he wouldn't let them take it, they left him beaten and bloody. 

If you're not extremely pissed, you're wrong.

[makattak]

It pisses me off.  I don't care about the dude's politics.  He went to the public square to express his views in a non-violent way (holding the American Flag).  A bunch of thugs were trying to deprive him of his property, and when he wouldn't let them take it, they left him beaten and bloody. 

If you're not extremely pissed, you're wrong.

Hmm.... interesting take.

I'm not angry about it. The guy didn't deserve it, but he MASSIVELY misjudged his "allies". He made a seriously bad decision and is unlikely to have learned anything from it, except maybe to avoid Antifa.

I have a question for you: what was your reaction to the bikers that thought "Evil was just made up" and were run over and killed by ISIS? "Extremely pissed" or unsurprised?

[Scout26]

Hmm.... interesting take.

I'm not angry about it. The guy didn't deserve it, but he MASSIVELY misjudged his "allies". He made a seriously bad decision and is unlikely to have learned anything from it, except maybe to avoid Antifa.

I have a question for you: what was your reaction to the bikers that thought "Evil was just made up" and were run over and killed by ISIS? "Extremely pissed" or unsurprised?

Apples and Bananas.

This Bernie Bro was exercising his 1A right here in the US. "I may disagree with your opinions, but I will defend until the death your right to speak them."  If we can't have public discourse without violence or threat of violence, then this country's days are numbered.  Imagine what will happen should antifa supported politicians (or politicians that support antifa) get elected.  Hitler's Brownshirts wouldn't hold a candle to them.  That's what greatly concerns me.  Think about what would happen with gangs going around doing with "kulaks  nazis"  what they wish while the .gov turns a blind eye to their excess or excuses their excesses.


The couple that went to the ME (not the US) took their chances.  They choose willful stupidity over logic and reason.

[Firethorn]

Hmm.... interesting take.

I'm not angry about it. The guy didn't deserve it, but he MASSIVELY misjudged his "allies".

I don't know that he'd have considered them his "allies" even before they bashed him.  Of course, they're probably like the ethics professor, went home congratulating themselves of "bashing the fash" when they probably pushed this guy close to our point of view.

I agree with Amy - that this is taking place in the USA is what is pissing me off.

[brimic]

Hmm.... interesting take.

I'm not angry about it. The guy didn't deserve it, but he MASSIVELY misjudged his "allies". He made a seriously bad decision and is unlikely to have learned anything from it, except maybe to avoid Antifa.

I have a question for you: what was your reaction to the bikers that thought "Evil was just made up" and were run over and killed by ISIS? "Extremely pissed" or unsurprised?

One very important objective lesson I learned as a teenager, was 'Hang around a rough crowd, expect to get roughed up'- well those were my Dad's exact words (with zero sympathy in his voice, I might add) when I came home one night with an eye swollen shut from a chipped orbital bone, plus lots of scrapes and bruises. I quickly changed to a different group of 'friends' to hang out with.

Birds of a feather and all...

[MechAg94]

One very important objective lesson I learned as a teenager, was 'Hang around a rough crowd, expect to get roughed up'- well those were my Dad's exact words (with zero sympathy in his voice, I might add) when I came home one night with an eye swollen shut from a chipped orbital bone, plus lots of scrapes and bruises. I quickly changed to a different group of 'friends' to hang out with.

Birds of a feather and all...

My parents said similar stuff.  I think my Mother's saying was something like "eventually God is going to call down the lightning on them and you don't want to be too close when it happens."  I know someone who got into trouble hanging out with a bad crowd.  After that, they found new friends and did well.  Some people enjoy encouraging conflict among people around them or just talking other people into doing stupid stuff. 

[MechAg94]

I was actually wondering why other states haven't adopted bans on wearing masks in public similar to Alabama (I think that is the state). 

[Hawkmoon]

Apples and Bananas.

This Bernie Bro was exercising his 1A right here in the US. "I may disagree with your opinions, but I will defend until the death your right to speak them."  If we can't have public discourse without violence or threat of violence, then this country's days are numbered.  Imagine what will happen should antifa supported politicians (or politicians that support antifa) get elected.  Hitler's Brownshirts wouldn't hold a candle to them.  That's what greatly concerns me.  Think about what would happen with gangs going around doing with "kulaks  nazis"  what they wish while the .gov turns a blind eye to their excess or excuses their excesses.


The couple that went to the ME (not the US) took their chances.  They choose willful stupidity over logic and reason.

Agreed on both counts.

The left accuse the right of being violent, and claim they have to arm themselves out of fear -- but it seems to this slightly less than objective observer that ALL the violence is either propagated or initiated by the left.

As for the bikers in Whereveristan ... they were idiots. Idealistic and well-intended, but idiots.

[freakazoid]

Agreed on both counts.

The left accuse the right of being violent, and claim they have to arm themselves out of fear -- but it seems to this slightly less than objective observer that ALL the violence is either propagated or initiated by the left.

Made especially clear when they showed up to a rally with very little "alt-right" people and decided to tear the place up anyways.

[Hawkmoon]

Has antifa (I won't dignify them by capitalizing the name) been declared a terrorist organization yet? If not ... why not? That's what they are.

[Perd Hapley]

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/01/report-fbi-labeled-antifa-domestic-terrorism-way-ryan-rubio-romney-declared-no-sides/

[Hawkmoon]

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/01/report-fbi-labeled-antifa-domestic-terrorism-way-ryan-rubio-romney-declared-no-sides/

Great.

Time to clean and oil my carry gun(s). I think I need a pocket pistol for when a belt holster is too conspicuous.

[T.O.M.]

The left accuse the right of being violent, and claim they have to arm themselves out of fear -- but it seems to this slightly less than objective observer that ALL the violence is either propagated or initiated by the left.

And here is where my fear lies in all of this.  People on the far left arm up out of "fear" of violence by the right.  People on the far right arm up because, if for no other reason, the other side is armed up.  Put all of these people near some political rally for either side.  And just like that, we are literally one loud noise from a shooting war. 

[TommyGunn]

^^^^^^^^
Yea,  I dread that too.   So far no antifa where I live.   Should that change I might be sticking an M4orgery and some mags in the trunk of my car as well as  ccw .... and pray that I can keep up with events since the first rule of defense is to be somewhere ELSE when things go sideways.

[Scout26]

My other great fear is for when the Democrats come to power again.  I fear that they will ignore or excuse the excesses of antifa and they will be emboldened to go from simply assaulting and beating "nazis" to killing.  When that happens is when CWII kicks off.

[brimic]

My other great fear is for when the Democrats come to power again.  I fear that they will ignore or excuse the excesses of antifa and they will be emboldened to go from simply assaulting and beating "nazis" to killing.  

Where they are in power, they are already, at least just short of murder to this point...

[makattak]

Apples and Bananas.

This Bernie Bro was exercising his 1A right here in the US. "I may disagree with your opinions, but I will defend until the death your right to speak them."  If we can't have public discourse without violence or threat of violence, then this country's days are numbered.  Imagine what will happen should antifa supported politicians (or politicians that support antifa) get elected.  Hitler's Brownshirts wouldn't hold a candle to them.  That's what greatly concerns me.  Think about what would happen with gangs going around doing with "kulaks  nazis"  what they wish while the .gov turns a blind eye to their excess or excuses their excesses.


The couple that went to the ME (not the US) took their chances.  They choose willful stupidity over logic and reason.

How am I supposed to get more angry over Antifa doing exactly what Antifa does?

At this point, I'm not even angry at the evil morons who make up Antifa. I'm angry at the states and localities that encourage them. (For example, the Antifa attempted murderer who was hitting people with a bike lock and got a slap on the wrist.)

How is this incident supposed to make me incensed when it is no different from the hundreds of other such incidents for which no perpetrator has suffered any appropriate punishment?

We have municipalities and states completely uninterested in the Rule of Law and prefer to encourage their hooligans to keep out the "riff-raff". I can't get any more angry over this incident because nothing has changed.

[brimic]

How am I supposed to get more angry over Antifa doing exactly what Antifa does?

At this point, I'm not even angry at the evil morons who make up Antifa. I'm angry at the states and localities that encourage them. (For example, the Antifa attempted murderer who was hitting people with a bike lock and got a slap on the wrist.)

How is this incident supposed to make me incensed when it is no different from the hundreds of other such incidents for which no perpetrator has suffered any appropriate punishment?

We have municipalities and states completely uninterested in the Rule of Law and prefer to encourage their hooligans to keep out the "riff-raff". I can't get any more angry over this incident because nothing has changed.

Their continued actions do build up evidence for an affirmative defense - if a political/terrorist group who all dress the same way have a reputation for being mentally unstable and causing significant physical harm to others were to approach you in an aggressive manner, defending oneself would be a reasonable action.

[HankB]

Have Bernie & Co. been condemning violence perpetrated by Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and other left wing "protest" groups over the past couple of years?

(insert sound of crickets . . . )