$2 Billion Lawsuit for Roundup

[Ben]

Bayer just lost a third lawsuit regarding Roundup and cancer, to the tune of $2 Billion. All three lawsuits have been awarded in CA, and like the other two, this one is expected to be appealed down.

It is interesting to me not just because of the amount (given to an elderly couple), but because a couple of opposing views on Glyphosate. The World Health Organization suggests (note "suggests", not "proves") it causes cancer, but our own EPA says there is no evidence of this. Considering the political/environmental leanings of the EPA, I found their contradiction to the WHO quite interesting.

The EPA report specifically states "when used correctly", which I assume means in the correct mixture quantities and with adequate personal protection. I've actually been spraying a bit for the last couple of weeks, but when I use it, I'm always in coveralls with nitrile gloves, eye protection, and a proper respirator. I used to see the ag workers in CA dressed pretty much the same, but both there and here in Idaho, I always saw neighbors spraying away with zero protection. In fact here in Idaho, the same with ag people. I've yet to see someone pulling a pesticide tank while wearing any kind of protection.

I'm wondering if the people who have won lawsuits were properly following application instructions. I also saw that Bayer is pushing for upcoming lawsuits to be moved outside of CA. It will be interesting to see how those juries rule.

I'm also thinking of throwing a little money into Bayer stock for a couple of years down the road, when everyone forgets about this. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bayer-glyphosate-lawsuit/california-jury-hits-bayer-with-2-billion-award-in-roundup-cancer-trial-idUSKCN1SJ29F

[RoadKingLarry]

pretty much everything in California is known by the state of California to cause cancer.
If the libtarded US EPA isn't jumping on the bandwagon then that really makes me scratch my head in awe.
I'm going to keep right on using Glyphosate.

The whole anti-big agriculture thing always amuses me. We very simply cannot produce enough food to feed this country economically by using hippy-dippy farming techniques. Without pesticides, herbicides, commercial fertilizer and hybrid (and maybe GMO)crops the cost of growing things would rapidly get the point that farming would be economic suicide.

[Brad Johnson]

Sounds to me like the prosecuting attorney's greatest talent is jury selection.

Brad

[WLJ]

Has California started putting cancer warnings on bottles of Dihydrogen Monoxide yet?

[BobR]

IIRC the next RoundUp lawsuit is being heard in St Louis. I was diagnosed with NHL in 2016, can I get on the bandwagon also. I sprayed round up yearly for at least 20 years to control weeds and grass where I didn't want it. I file these things under the same heading as I do a lot of the medication lawsuits, ambulance chasing hack lawyers trying to make a buck on the misfortune of others.


bob

[MillCreek]

Sounds to me like the prosecuting attorney's greatest talent is jury selection.

Brad

Especially in personal injury lawsuits, jury selection is key and getting the right jurors on your case goes a long way in terms of you winning the case.  For high-value malpractice cases, hiring a jury consultant and presenting the case to a mock jury before the actual trial is par for the course.  It helps you refine the voir dire questions to pick the jurors, and which arguments work and do not work with the jurors.

[MechAg94]

Saw this somewhere recently:  When will California find that California causes cancer?  Will California ban California?

[brimic]

Nearly anything will cause you problems if you use it excessively, without protection, or negligently....
A late colleague of mine worked at IFF, where several workers got severe lung diseases and cancer from working with Diacetyl, which is used in microwave popcorn flavoring. He told me that the worker had the attitude that "it smells good, and you can eat it, so why wear PPE?" thatnothowthatworks.jpeg

[MillCreek]

^^^I have read journal reports about 'popcorn lung'.  Nothing at all to mess with.

[WLJ]

^^^I have read journal reports about 'popcorn lung'.  Nothing at all to mess with.

Read up on it a while back, nasty.
On a side note: I won't eat microwave popcorn because I can't stand the chemical taste it has, give me hot air or old fashion on the stove popcorn. Kids today think microwave popcorn is the way popcorn is suppose to taste because many have never had anything else

[BobR]

Read up on it a while back, nasty.
On a side note: I won't eat microwave popcorn because I can't stand the chemical taste it has, give me hot air or old fashion on the stove popcorn. Kids today think microwave popcorn is the way popcorn is suppose to taste because many have never had anything else

And here I was thinking it should have a slight aluminum taste.



Hmmmm, very similar to about 0.25 seconds into a nuclear explosion.....   


bob

[RoadKingLarry]

We still do a few of those a year on the wood stove when the grand kids are staying with us.

[charby]

IIRC the next RoundUp lawsuit is being heard in St Louis. I was diagnosed with NHL in 2016, can I get on the bandwagon also. I sprayed round up yearly for at least 20 years to control weeds and grass where I didn't want it. I file these things under the same heading as I do a lot of the medication lawsuits, ambulance chasing hack lawyers trying to make a buck on the misfortune of others.


bob

Pm sent

[WLJ]

And here I was thinking it should have a slight aluminum taste.



Hmmmm, very similar to about 0.25 seconds into a nuclear explosion.....  


bob