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New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« on: July 14, 2020, 01:34:23 PM »
I thought this was a very powerful letter. Though she calls herself a "centrist" she is basically left wing in APS terms. Which actually makes her words even more powerful. It seems that unless you're a full blown commie, you are harassed by what is alluded to be a minority of far left snowflake employees who wield power that they should not possess.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/07/14/theyve-called-me-a-nazi-and-a-racist-bari-weiss-leaving-nyt-publishes-powerful-yet-damning-resignation-letter-screenshots/

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

EDIT: I swapped URLs to a better one for reading the letter.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 02:18:41 PM »
She's right.  And the final cost isn't just one reporters job, it's the focus change of newspapers and TV news from reporting news to an attempt (largely successful with their target audience) to shape and mold viewpoints in order to advance their agenda.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 04:58:05 PM »
Wow!!

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2020, 10:23:44 PM »
Guess who will never work in that town again. Agree or lose your (professional, for now) life.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2020, 11:27:15 PM »
Unfortunately, the NYT is a microcosm of what's happening to the country.

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But the lessons that ought to have followed the election — lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society — have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2020, 11:54:58 PM »
The die is cast. The outcome has been inevitable for some time now. This republic as we have known it is doomed.
The only only thing that remains uncertain is how soon the *expletive deleted*it hits the fan and how deep of a crater we end up in.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2020, 02:09:41 AM »
The only only thing that remains uncertain is how soon the *expletive deleted*it hits the fan and how deep of a crater we end up in.

And whether the entire country goes down the tubes, or if some states secede and revitalize the founding principles.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2020, 04:50:53 AM »
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The only thing that remains uncertain is how soon the *expletive deleted*it hits the fan and how deep of a crater we end up in.

And what foreign powers or entities will obtain advantages or even full control during the troubles.

There'll be a lot of drooling going on outside our borders.

There is a lot of drooling going on outside our borders.

And I'll bet a lot of heavy weapons will be ready to ship to the <ahem, koff-koff> "insurgents."

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2020, 05:54:12 AM »
The late  author, William W. Johnstone, wrote an entire series of books about a second civil war between the states, culminating in the southern states defeating the northern states and establishing a new country, the SUSA (Southern United States of America), based on the principles of the original founders of the United States. Through the books, the SUSA thrived and prospered, while the old USA withered and became more and more subject to the rule of corrupt politicians to whom individual freedoms were anathema.

The series is known as the Ashes series. I recommend them, if you can find them.

If anyone finds Johnstone's writing to be enjoyable, be aware that he died in 2004. His estate and his publishers concealed the fact of his death for three years, and even now they continue to publish new titles under his name (sometimes attributed to William W. Johnstone "with" J.A. Johnstone. Wikipedia says J.A. Johnstone is his niece; I think it's a pseudonym for one or more contract writers who churn out books so the publisher can capitalize on the Johnstone name. According to Wikipedia, 330 books have been attributed to him since his death.

So ... if you can find the books in the Ashes series, by all means read them. For any other Johnstone books, skip any that were copyrighted after 2004. They're trash.

(Disclaimer: I once wrote to the real William Johnstone with some thoughts about another of his series, and he was good enough to reply. I corresponded with him irregularly for awhile before his death. That allows me to feel suitably outraged that the publisher is profiteering off Bill's name.)

There are 36 books in the Ashes series. The last was published in January of 2004 and may or may not have been written by Johnstone himself.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2020, 07:37:05 AM »
I understand there is some issue on publishing a complete copy of her letter.... whether copyrighted or what, I don't know.

In any case I did find a copy of it as an "original source"  but I dast not post it here.

Anyone know what the "publication" problem is and if it's OK to post it here?


She mentions that it was a surprise to her that the internal censoring machine was so pervasive, yet you and I ( grin ) have been bitching for years, nearly decades, about the paper's extreme left viewpoint.  Where was she in her left-of-centrist world if she did not know that?

I once wisecracked that there are three things I routinely ignore.  Distant gunfire, children throwing tantrums, and the New York Times.

She also goes into Alfred Ochs' original "mission statement' for the paper and bemoaned the fact that it is no longer the practice of the paper as a whole: "Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper should not require bravery."

Amen, Ms. Weiss.  Let us hope that your action starts a reaction to the one-mindedness that seems to pervade  our information industry.

Bravery begets bravery.

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2020, 08:10:04 AM »
I understand there is some issue on publishing a complete copy of her letter.... whether copyrighted or what, I don't know.

In any case I did find a copy of it as an "original source"  but I dast not post it here.

Anyone know what the "publication" problem is and if it's OK to post it here?

Huh? My second link is the complete letter that she posted on her own website.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2020, 10:36:48 AM »
I have to wonder . . .

Did Ms. Bari Weiss ever - ever! - protest in her writing about the poor way actual conservatives had been treated by the media in general or the NYT in particular?

Or is she just having a hissy fit because now SHE (rather than someone to the right of her) was being disrespected and treated poorly by the powers-that-be at the NYT?

Her letter is telling, but unless someone shows that she's been a past advocate for fair treatment in the media for people to her right, I don't think I'll be mustering much sympathy for her.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2020, 10:41:57 AM »

Her letter is telling, but unless someone shows that she's been a past advocate for fair treatment in the media for people to her right, I don't think I'll be mustering much sympathy for her.

I didn't look at it as sympathy (at least on my part and my reading of the letter). I posted because I thought it was a very illuminating look into just how far left and fascist the MSM has gone.
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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2020, 12:12:40 PM »
Ben, this may be part of the problem with my reluctance to post Bari's letter:

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https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

EDIT: I swapped URLs to a better one for reading the letter.

I may have had a problem with your first URL. I do remember seeing one which was an image of the letter which I could not read since the print size was ridiculously small.

I don't know how, but I picked up the idea that the letter was copyrighted or somehow restricted.

In any case, I am going back and striking the sections on my question about posting it.

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2020, 04:58:31 PM »
I have to wonder . . .

Did Ms. Bari Weiss ever - ever! - protest in her writing about the poor way actual conservatives had been treated by the media in general or the NYT in particular?

Or is she just having a hissy fit because now SHE (rather than someone to the right of her) was being disrespected and treated poorly by the powers-that-be at the NYT?

Her letter is telling, but unless someone shows that she's been a past advocate for fair treatment in the media for people to her right, I don't think I'll be mustering much sympathy for her.

One of the things she's best known for is this profile on the IDW, so I would say she's checked that box.

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2020, 09:02:24 PM »
That Dark Web thing was interesting, fistful... thanks.

I have to wonder . . .

Did Ms. Bari Weiss ever - ever! - protest in her writing about the poor way actual conservatives had been treated by the media in general or the NYT in particular?

Or is she just having a hissy fit because now SHE (rather than someone to the right of her) was being disrespected and treated poorly by the powers-that-be at the NYT?

Her letter is telling, but unless someone shows that she's been a past advocate for fair treatment in the media for people to her right, I don't think I'll be mustering much sympathy for her.

I think the simplest answer to that is this observation:

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Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Somewhat analogous, but in other words, you can put up with onerous circumstances only to a certain threshold.

That was her Declaraion of Independence.

That's the way I see it anyhow.

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Re: New York Times Reporter's Resignation Letter
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2020, 11:45:39 PM »
She mentions that it was a surprise to her that the internal censoring machine was so pervasive, yet you and I ( grin ) have been bitching for years, nearly decades, about the paper's extreme left viewpoint.  Where was she in her left-of-centrist world if she did not know that?

If you look at the first few paragraphs, she explains that the paper hired her because they were (supposedly) attempting to incorporate a broader range of viewpoints. She knew going in that they had been suffering from narrow-mindedness, and she was supposed to help them cure it. Obviously, she couldn't know going in just how intolerant they would turn out to be. Apparently, they didn't, either.
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