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Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« on: August 31, 2020, 12:34:02 AM »
I just happened to see this on a website for a local shooting range.

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No Herter’s, Wolf, Tulammo, Privi Partizan (PPU) or Freedom Munitions may be used on the range.

http://www.buylearnshoot.com/

They're based in Illinois, so I blame - uh - Illinois.


And here is a rather confusing rule from another range:

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Only factory produced ammo is allowed to be used on the range. Hand or privately loaded ammo is allowed.

http://www.eagleeyeusa.net/eagle-eye-range-rules/
« Last Edit: August 31, 2020, 01:06:07 AM by fistful »
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2020, 01:15:40 AM »
The first three are steel-cased, and I believe they use a mild steel covering on the bullets, as well. There have been instances of Wolf and Tulammo starting fires due to sparking. That might be the reason. But I didn't know PPU was steel cased -- I thought it was brass and copper. I don't know anything abour Freedom Munitions.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2020, 01:16:52 AM »
Tulammo makes brass-cased as well.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2020, 08:29:17 AM »
I just happened to see this on a website for a local shooting range.

http://www.buylearnshoot.com/

They're based in Illinois, so I blame - uh - Illinois.

No, it's nothing about Ill-i-noise.  Plenty of cheap furrin' ammo gets shot here.

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And here is a rather confusing rule from another range:

http://www.eagleeyeusa.net/eagle-eye-range-rules/

"No handloads" , got it.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2020, 08:46:59 AM »


"No handloads" , got it.

What about a guy who lost his arms and runs his reloader with his feet?
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2020, 08:58:59 AM »
The first three are steel-cased, and I believe they use a mild steel covering on the bullets, as well. There have been instances of Wolf and Tulammo starting fires due to sparking. That might be the reason. But I didn't know PPU was steel cased -- I thought it was brass and copper. I don't know anything abour Freedom Munitions.

Many ranges ban steel cased ammo because they don't want to have to pick it out of the brass they sweep up and sell + the above mentioned problem.
Freedom Munitions could either be new or factory reloads. Many ranges ban reloads.
PPU being banned is highly unusual and has me puzzled, never seen anything steel cased or with bi-metal bullets or reloaded from them or hear of any other problems. It's decent ammo. Maybe the guy is anti-Serbian or something ???
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 09:21:58 AM »
Some of the cheap stuff uses "bimetal" jackets on the bullets, one of the metals being steel. My local range won't allow the use of any bullet that a magnet will stick to, their reasoning being that it can ricochet. They do allow steel cased ammo.

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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2020, 09:29:00 AM »
The first three are steel-cased, and I believe they use a mild steel covering on the bullets, as well.

I have a couple cases of PPU that is brass cased, with copper jacketed lead bullets. No steel at all.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2020, 10:18:08 AM »
Some of the cheap stuff uses "bimetal" jackets on the bullets, one of the metals being steel. My local range won't allow the use of any bullet that a magnet will stick to, their reasoning being that it can ricochet. They do allow steel cased ammo.

In terms of starting fires, it's the bi-metal jackets on the bullets that's the culprit. I hadn't thought about issues with mixing steel and brass cases in the scrap metal. I shoot at an indoor range, and he simply has separate buckets for steel and aluminum cases. Easy solution.

That company may not want to trust their customers to know which of the com-bloc ammo lines use bi-metal jackets as opposed to brass or copper jackets, so it's easier just to ban the ammo makers entirely. But ,as noted, I don't know what that has to do with Prvi Partisan (PPU). I've never encountered any steel ammo from them, and I regard their ammo as good quality.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2020, 12:33:38 PM »
I guess that rules out tracer ammo also.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2020, 12:42:22 PM »
Regarding ricochets, my hard cast lead bullets ricochet more often than I would like. If I shoot both FMJ and lead (230gr RN in my .45ACPs), if anything ricochets, it's almost always the lead.
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2020, 05:22:09 PM »
"No handloads" , got it.

Read it again.  ;)
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Re: Local range bans Herters, Wolf, Tulammo, etc.
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2020, 05:51:08 PM »
Yeah that sounds about like a Covid rule.
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