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Phil Spector dead
« on: January 17, 2021, 12:27:49 PM »
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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2021, 12:47:32 PM »
Well,.... bye.
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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2021, 12:55:16 PM »
Sentenced 19 years to life. Looks like it worked out the way it was intended.

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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2021, 12:58:02 PM »
Oh, well.  May God have mercy on his soul.
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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2021, 09:06:38 PM »
Just playing around.  But one nanosecond after the hammer slipped off the sear his life was ruined forever.

At least Lana didn't feel any pain.
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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2021, 09:56:05 PM »
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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2021, 09:54:12 AM »
This all exemplifies my long-standing plea that hung juries should result in an automatic dismissal of charges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Spector#2003–2009:_Murder_conviction

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Spector remained free on $1 million bail while awaiting trial, which began on March 19, 2007. Presiding Judge Larry Paul Fidler allowed the proceedings in Los Angeles Superior Court to be televised.[79] On September 26, 2007, Fidler declared a mistrial because of a hung jury (ten to two for conviction).[80][81] 
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The retrial of Spector for murder in the second degree began on October 20, 2008,[88] with Judge Fidler again presiding; the retrial was not televised. Spector was once again represented by attorney Jennifer Lee Barringer.[89] The case went to the jury on March 26, 2009, and 18 days later, on April 13, the jury returned a guilty verdict.[90][91] Additionally, Spector was found guilty of using a firearm in the commission of a crime, which added four years to the sentence.[92] He was immediately taken into custody and, on May 29, 2009, was sentenced to 19 years to life in the California state prison system.
(Bolding mine.)

See also, for color:
 https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mistrial-declared-in-phil-spector-murder-case

Both trials were for second-degree murder.

Why a dismissal?

Because my layman's instinct says that if a prosecutor cannot achieve a conviction at a trial, as evidenced by the 10-to-2 "guilty" vote in this case, reasonable doubt has ipso facto been achieved in the minds of two (in this case) of the jurors.

This, barring external evidence of jury tampering or perjury of the jurors during the selection process and the like.

My case for automatic dismissal rides on simpy that:  A reasonable doubt has been demonstrated, so let the alleged dirty rotten coprophagic scoundrel go.

So don't play a coin-tossing game with a new trial and new jurors and thereby boost your conviction record.

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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2021, 10:48:22 AM »
He was slime but his family still deserves to be left alone to grieve, and may his passing give his victims' families closure.

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Re: Phil Spector dead
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2021, 12:55:14 PM »
Clarification, me:  "...so let the alleged dirty rotten coprophagic scoundrel go."

I wasn't specifically referring to Mr.Spector, but rather, all the folks who've been convicted by the press and others who were not "appealing" to the jury.

Eighteen days for a decision in his second trial.  That should tell you something about the strength of the prosecution's case.
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