Murder charge against NYC bodega worker Jose Alba is DA Bragg’s latest controver

[MillCreek]

It's a mental sickness. And it's not just the DA in NY.

Think back to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial - the second chair prosecutor actually made an argument before the jury that Rittenhouse should have accepted and submitted to a beating rather than shooting his assailants.

A beating is all fun and games until your spleen gets ruptured from a kick and you bleed out internally or your skull is fractured and the resulting hematoma leaves you a drooling idiot in a skilled nursing facility for the rest of your life.

[Ben]

A beating is all fun and games until your spleen gets ruptured from a kick and you bleed out internally or your skull is fractured and the resulting hematoma leaves you a drooling idiot in a skilled nursing facility for the rest of your life.

I do not understand the people who don't comprehend that. I'm seriously curious on why they think a beat down is no big deal. Have they never been hit? Do they get it from the movies or video games? We just saw an old man beat to death by little kids with a flexible traffic cone.

[K Frame]

I do not understand the people who don't comprehend that. I'm seriously curious on why they think a beat down is no big deal. Have they never been hit? Do they get it from the movies or video games? We just saw an old man beat to death by little kids with a flexible traffic cone.

You answered your own question. They've never been hit. At heart, they're pacifists who think that all human are similarly minded and will pull their punches to make sure that no one gets hurt.

The surest way to make them see the light?

Give them an old school beat down that puts them in the hospital.

[dogmush]

. Have they never been hit? Do they get it from the movies or video games?

Yes. They've never really been hit, or indeed in any real danger. And yes they get it from entertainment. After all, you can pistol whip a hero into unconsciousness, and they'll just wake up in a couple minutes none the worse for wear, right?

[Bogie]

IIRC, more people are killed by "fists/feet" than by rifles. Any rifles.

[MechAg94]

You answered your own question. They've never been hit. At heart, they're pacifists who think that all human are similarly minded and will pull their punches to make sure that no one gets hurt.

The surest way to make them see the light?

Give them an old school beat down that puts them in the hospital.

I can hardly remember the last time I got in a fight, but it doesn't take a genius to see videos of people getting attacked by mobs.  First they get hit in the head by something heavy and pass out or get knocked to the ground.  Then people starting moving in to kick them in the head and body. 

That is nothing new.  The first time I can think of a widely distributed mob beat down video coming out was Reginald Denny in 1992.  You have to be a complete fool to not know what happens.   

[RoadKingLarry]

I've heard it said that some of the most ardent 2A supporters are former antigun liberals that got their ass kicked.

[Bogie]

Hell, you can see mob beat downs on damn near any day on Youtube... Some Asian guy, or some Hispanic guy, or some Caucasian guy pisses off the wrong privileged person, and bam... They get stomped.
 
Don't try to stop that wilding store looting folks...
 
In other news, they convicted the guy who killed David Dorn here in STL - and his mother was STILL proclaiming that he was a good boy... About to go to bible college... Etc., etc...
 
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/jury-murder-trial-man-accused-killing-captain-david-dorn/63-17c31369-863b-4e16-92f8-53321b1a2c32
 
I figure they're still gonna try to let the guy walk. Gang intimidation of witnesses was just the beginning.

[230RN]

Legal (or political) issues aside, I've never understood how somebody could believe that a human being doesn't have the right to defend him or herself, even with potentially deadly force.  Did the DA really expect him to just fight a man who was bigger, younger, and in better shape than he was?  I guess that's why NY didn't (well, still doesn't) like the idea of concealed carry for law abiding citizens.  I just don't understand why a bleeding and bruised old man is preferable to a dead thug.  More to my point, I don't understand how others would think that.

Years and years (since the 'twenties') of rigorous brainwashing.  Speaking from my early years there, compared to my years here out west, New Yorkers are so indoctrinated by the PTB ("powers that be") that they can not recognize their own brainlocks:

"Guns is bad," and "Only cops and criminals have guns."

Unfortunaely, this kind of attitude spreads oncologically because of the faux "safety" it offers.

Even kittens carry concealed weapons,but this biological lesson completely escapes them.

       

Terry, 230RN

Pic credit in Properties, courtesy Getty

[JTHunter]

IIRC, more people are killed by "fists/feet" than by rifles. Any rifles.

Yep.  It's called "blunt force trauma".

[Devonai]

I got my butt thoroughly kicked twice in high school. The years of martial arts training that followed was because I really, really don't want to be punched in the face ever again.

[K Frame]

I was in a couple of tussles in school.

One I did very well in. The other one, not so much.

[230RN]

I'm reminded of the scene in the Elvis Presley movie "Kid Galahad" where a fight promoter is impressed by the Kid's record of "12 knockouts in a row."

Unstated was the fact that the Kid was the one KOed in 12 knockouts in a row.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Galahad

I ain't talking about my fight record.  So there, nyah. 

I ain't signing this one so nobody can challenge me.

[WLJ]

Meanwhile elsewhere in NY you can attack an R congressman and candidate for gov and walk free the same day.

Zeldin was giving a campaign speech at the VFW on Macedon Center Road in Fairport when a man got on stage, started yelling, wrestled with the congressman and pulled out a sharp object, according to witnesses.

“I’m ok, and Alison Esposito, and all other attendees are safe,” Zeldin added. “The attacker is in custody. Grateful for the attendees who stepped up quickly to assist and the law enforcement officers who quickly responded. I’m as resolute as ever to do my part to make New York safe again. This suspect will likely be right back out on the street immediately.”

And he was

The suspect, David G. Jakubonis, was soon released on his own recognizance after being charged with felony second-degree attempted assault, the Monroe County Sheriff said.

Almost shocked they didn't charge the congressman with assault

Congressman and NY gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin attacked at campaign rally
https://www.audacy.com/1010wins/news/state/ny-gubernatorial-candidate-lee-zeldin-attacked-at-rally

[Ben]

Exactly how was the attack on Zeldin an "attempted" assault? All evidence shows the attacker laid hands on him.

[RocketMan]

Exactly how was the attack on Zeldin an "attempted" assault? All evidence shows the attacker laid hands on him.

Zeldin is not a real human being.  He is a Republican.

[Perd Hapley]

According to one news story I saw, Zeldin's speech that night was on bail reform.

[Hawkmoon]

Exactly how was the attack on Zeldin an "attempted" assault? All evidence shows the attacker laid hands on him.

He's a Republican, you silly person.

[RocketMan]

Zeldin's attacker was arrested on federal charges earlier today.  Neither article mentions whether he was offered or has made bail for the federal charge.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lee-zeldin-attack-suspect-david-jakubonis-arrested

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lee-zeldin-attack-suspect-hit-federal-assault-charge

[WLJ]

Update

Jose Alba, an ex-bodega worker who was attacked behind the counter on July 1, 2022, by 35-year-old Austin Simon and his girlfriend, Tina Lee, filed a lawsuit in the Southern District of New York on Friday alleging he was wrongfully prosecuted because of the Manhattan district attorney's "racial equity" policies. The complaint names Bragg, NYPD Detective William Garcia, and unidentified arresting officers and detectives of the NYPD as defendants in the case.

"New York County District Attorney Alvin Bragg and/or his subordinates, following Bragg’s policy to achieve ‘racial equity’ in the Manhattan criminal justice system, charged Plaintiff with murder in the second degree and asked for high bail at Plaintiff’s arraignment," the complaint states.

"Despite the fact that Simon and Lee were the initial aggressors, it was Plaintiff who was arrested, incarcerated, and wrongfully prosecuted. While in theory, Bragg’s ‘racial equity’ policies are a well-intentioned attempt by him to implement even-handed justice, the means and methods employed by Bragg have instead had an opposite effect and resulted in discrimination against certain defendants based on race."

Bears watching to see where this goes.

Ex-bodega clerk Jose Alba sues NYC DA Alvin Bragg for racial discrimination after murder charges dropped
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ex-bodega-clerk-jose-alba-sues-nyc-da-alvin-bragg-racial-discrimination-murder-charges-dropped

[JTHunter]

Best wishes and "good luck" to Mr. Alba !