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Stand_watie

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Europe as a "counterweight" to the US
« on: May 07, 2007, 08:39:59 PM »
A little advice for Sarkozy, find a way to please Euro and American critics with the same words. "Counterweight" is wrong for making friends in America - say instead, "we're going to compete with you!" "We're going to challenge you for dominance!"

Americans love a friendly competition, even if it is a difference of food on the table or not, rather than an ideological struggle.



"He wants to get European integration on track again and does not define Europe as a counterweight to the United States," Andreas Schockenhoff, a leading conservative in parliament told German television. "These are the very principles on which our foreign policy is based."

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Re: Europe as a "counterweight" to the US
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 03:46:32 AM »
A little advice for Sarkozy, find a way to please Euro and American critics with the same words. 

Also if he could invent socks smelling of violets after a mrathon run thad would be great, too !


"He wants to get European integration on track again and does not define Europe as a counterweight to the United States," Andreas Schockenhoff, a leading conservative in parliament told German television. "These are the very principles on which our foreign policy is based."

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That's just Schlockenpoff talking, what do we care ?
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Re: Europe as a "counterweight" to the US
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 04:37:50 AM »
On an elevator, the counterweight sinks to the basement while the elevator goes to the penthouse...and the elevator has control over where things move, the counterweight is just a block of metal on a track.  If he wants Europe to be our counterweight, hey...  cheesy

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Re: Europe as a "counterweight" to the US
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2007, 04:32:05 AM »
Here is an excellent article about Britain and France.

We always hear about our (USA) falling prestige but if you look at the UK, France, Germany and Australia the pro USA folks are winning elections.



Thursday, May. 10, 2007
Our Time Has Come
By PETER GUMBEL

Earlier this year, the BBC unearthed some startling documents in the British National Archives. The papers, which dated back to the Suez crisis in 1956, documented a proposal by Guy Mollet, France's Socialist Prime Minister of the time, to create a union between France and Great Britain. When his British counterpart, the Conservative Anthony Eden, flatly rejected the idea, Mollet suggested that France could instead become a member of the British Commonwealth.

The idea was quickly dropped, but the discovery of it a half-century later caused a stir on both sides of the English Channel, not least because these days it seems so utterly improbable: quite apart from their distinctive histories and identity, Britain and France in recent years have been on totally different trajectories  London up, Paris down  and relations between the two leaders of the past decade, President Jacques Chirac and Prime Minister Tony Blair, have been prickly at best. Opposing positions on the war in Iraq and on European farm subsidies have at times degenerated into public shouting matches that have been gleefully reported by the national press of both countries.

But now the two nations are about to get new leaders who may be closer in outlook and personality than any French President and British Prime Minister in living memory. While nobody dreams of reviving the Mollet plan, the two men have an opportunity to put Britain and France back into the same orbit  with potentially significant consequences for the rest of Europe and the U.S., which for the first time in years is being cheered rather than jeered by a French leader. Meanwhile, there's a lot the new boys can learn from one another as they pursue their most pressing policy goals.

At first sight, Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy would seem to continue the Anglo-French tradition of coming from different planets. Sarkozy, who won an easy victory in the French presidential runoff election on May 6, is the son of a capricious Hungarian émigré aristocrat. A mediocre student who still refers painfully to the "humiliations" of his childhood, he embraced Gaullist conservatism as a young man when most of his contemporaries were reveling in the make-love-not-war spirit of the late '60s. He triumphed in the French vote by painting himself as the candidate of change. "Together we will write a new page in our history," he promised in his victory speech.

By contrast, Brown, who has been anointed to succeed Blair when he steps down this summer, represents continuity: as Chancellor of the Exchequer, he's been Blair's co-architect and co-executor of British government policy for a decade. His roots are quite unlike Sarkozy's, too: the son of a Scottish Presbyterian minister, Brown so excelled at school that he was accepted into Edinburgh University at the age of 16 and went on to work his way up through the ranks of Britain's Labour Party at a time when it was saddled with socialist dogma.

For all these differences of background and political affiliation, however, there are some striking similarities. On economic policy, questions of national identity and foreign policy, they can sound more or less alike. Both extol the importance of a strong work ethic and advocate free markets, but with caveats. Both have a controversial nationalist bent: while Brown talks about the importance of "Britishness," Sarkozy is seeking to establish clear criteria for those who aspire to become French. Both feel warm about America but cool toward President George W. Bush. Neither gets emotional over the idea of European unity, preferring to see what works  and what doesn't. Their natures, too, are similar: both are impatient, often short-tempered and, say their critics, sometimes authoritarian. Yet both have had to bide their time and, to their evident frustration, wait their turn to assume power.

"We now have two leaders who have many things in common, including their temperaments," says Charles Grant, director of the Centre for European Reform, a London-based think tank. He believes Sarkozy, Brown and German Chancellor Angela Merkel could create a new triumvirate of power at Europe's core. All three, he says, "are Atlanticist, economically liberal  more or less  and take a pragmatic rather than ideological approach to the European Union and its institutions."

These are early days, of course, and even the biggest euro-optimists aren't yet talking about a new spirit of entente. The two men know one another from Sarkozy's stint as French Finance Minister in 2004; they met regularly at E.U. ministerial meetings in Brussels. Aides say they get on well, at least professionally, and respect one another, but so far that's all. Cozying up to one another is not yet on their agenda; Sarkozy's first trips as President will be to Berlin and Brussels, not London. Moreover, there's no neat fit between their views on at least one critical issue: how to react to globalization. Brown is an ardent advocate of trade and open borders, which he sees as being of major benefit to Britain. He told Time: "You've got to put the case for globalization in the sense that, with open markets and flexibility and free trade, you give people the chance to benefit from a global economy." Sarkozy comes from a French tradition that is far warier of the outside world and more inclined to state intervention. In his victory speech, he urged European leaders "not to remain deaf to the anger of the people who view the European Union not as a protection, but as the Trojan horse for all the threats that are contained in the transformations of the world."

Still, in a country where being called Anglo-Saxon is often an insult, Sarkozy is openly admiring of the ability of Britain and the U.S. to create millions of jobs, and is promising to deregulate France's labor market in an effort to end what he calls the nation's "immobility." In a pre-election debate on May 2, he singled out the U.K., along with Ireland, Sweden and Denmark, lauding them for their success in combatting unemployment. That sort of attitude drew flak, with opponents painting him as an American-style neoconservative, but that didn't stop him winning. "He's as economically liberal as it's possible to be for a French politician," says Grant of the Centre for European Reform.

There's certainly a lot of lost ground to be made up. France has languished economically, even as Britain has caught up and overtaken it. In 2002, according to O.E.C.D. statistics, the U.K.'s national income per capita exceeded France's for the first time, and since then the gap has widened. Brits, long the poorer neighbors, are now on average 10% richer than the French. That's one important factor feeding a deepening mood of pessimism about the future in France  a mood that Sarkozy is pledging to change.

You only have to go to Bergerac airport to see the difference. It's strategically placed between the Bordeaux wine region and the rolling Dordogne countryside. There are no flights to Bergerac from Paris. But these days up to eight planes arrive every day from the U.K., disgorging hundreds of Britons who are visiting their French country houses or who have simply come to taste France's legendary savoir vivre. One opinion poll published last fall showed that one in five Britons under 50 would like to have been born French. The British "invasion" of Bergerac and other parts of France has pushed up real estate prices beyond the reach of many local residents.

By contrast, the flow in the other direction across the English Channel is a very different one: mainly young French people moving to the U.K. to work. François-Xavier Girard is one of them. He's a software developer who spent three years in Ireland before taking a job in Nice in 2003. Moving back "was a shock. There was an ambient pessimism. It was everywhere," he says. Six months later he found a job in London, and feels much happier. Sitting in a pub in Covent Garden nursing a beer, he says, "there's nothing much to attract me back." But speaking of England, he adds: "The food isn't so good, and I've never tested the health system. I might talk differently if I had."

Leaving the food aside, he puts his finger on the biggest challenges the two leaders have set themselves. Sarkozy wants to inject a badly needed dynamism into the French economy, creating jobs and lifting the morose national mood. Brown, for his part, has presided over a British economy that has notched up an astonishing 58 consecutive quarters of growth, starting before he took over. Yet he still has a huge amount of work to do to boost the quality of public services, particularly the health system, to French levels. (The French have their own problems extracting value for money from their hospitals, but at least patients don't need to wait six months for a nonemergency medical procedure.) During Brown's tenure, British government investment on infrastructure climbed from 1.3% of gdp in 2003 to 1.6% last year, but as a percentage it is less than half of what the French spend. And both have a spending problem: French national debt has quintupled since 1980, while Britain is currently running a budget deficit equivalent to 3.5% of its gdp, says Peter Spencer, an economics professor at York University, who dubs Brown "the champion of borrowing." While consumer spending has helped to fuel Britain's powerful growth, "the bottom line is that we are all living beyond our means," he worries.

It's an altogether odd situation when a right-wing French leader can learn about deregulating labor markets from a British leftist, even as the two share lessons learned about effective public-sector spending. But both men are renowned for this willingness to challenge conventional wisdom and ideology. With his talk about positive discrimination and the importance of work, Sarkozy breaks the mold of French politics. Brown, too, has taken swipes at hallowed British beliefs. In a 2003 speech in which he outlined his ideas for prosperity and social reform, he stressed that markets are critical, but also noted where they fail and where he believes the state still has an important role. Brown cited health care as an area where "price signals don't always work, the consumer is not sovereign, [and] there is potential abuse of monopoly power." They were remarks Sarkozy himself could have made. While he calls himself "a believer in market economics," Sarkozy told Time in 2004 that, for him too, "ideologies have been replaced by principles of realism and pragmatism, and I don't rule out the possibility to intervene when intervention is called for."

Both men are expected to bring that same pragmatism to foreign policy, too. But Brown inherits a desperately messy situation with British troops in Iraq, and he doesn't have the same standing in the U.S. or the personal relationship with Bush that Blair nurtured, which may make for some tense moments. He's also earned a reputation in the European Union for being deeply skeptical of its institutions, including its executive commission. As for Sarkozy, he emphasized in his victory speech that "France is on the way back to Europe," but he's fiercely opposed to Turkey's membership of the E.U., and he has slammed the European Central Bank for allowing the euro to rise so sharply against the dollar. People close to him say he needs to be convinced that the European Commission is looking out for French interests.

The biggest change in French policy may relate to the U.S. Sarkozy isn't afraid to say he admires America  a sharp contrast to Chirac, who often couched his policies as a counterweight to U.S. influence and called for a "multipolar world" that would dilute American power. In his victory speech, Sarkozy himself gave a hint about what that change might mean in practice: addressing "our American friends," he said, "I want to tell them that France will always be at their side when they need us. But I also want to say that friendship means accepting that friends can think differently, and that a great nation like the U.S. has the duty not to impose obstacles to the fight against climate change."

Fighting greenhouse gases is one thing, uniting with Britain is quite another. However much Sarkozy shifts his nation's policy, there's no likelihood of France trying once more to make itself part of the British Commonwealth. But after a long period of tension between France and Britain, there's at least a chance that the new leadership of the two countries might share a common wealth of ideas, policies and experience. Guy Mollet would applaud.

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