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Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« on: May 25, 2007, 01:19:05 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_fe_st/monster_pig_3;_ylt=AqziA.aDfRjHvtBzRSy1fZ8E1vAI

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old Alabama boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9-feet-4 from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.
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If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.

Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet in length.
National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long....






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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2007, 04:42:32 PM »
You know, if you really want a honkin' big pig, you need to go hunting in the candy aisle of Walmart. They usually ride around on lardcarts


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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2007, 05:24:17 PM »
I call shenanigans.

Seriously, that picture makes the thing proportionately bigger than a male Kodiak bear and they go a little heavier by length.
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2007, 06:48:52 PM »
I dunno...  undecided

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2007, 07:06:51 PM »
Look at the difference in the two pics.  In the 2nd one the hog is easily not close to 2 times the father's height.  Assuming he's 5'8" or so I'd say thats a good pic.

Now look at the portion of the kid visible vs. the length of the hog in the first pic.  That is either a totally different (unrealistic) beast or someone is playing games with Photoshop or foreshortening.

In the first pic the end of the hog's snout is bigger around than the kid's face, from snout tip to base it's as wide as his shoulders.  In the second it isn't.

So, to be complete, I call shenanigans on the first photo, in that male Kodiaks aren't that big in photos.

On a different note...

Where'd he hit it?  The spleen?
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2007, 08:27:54 PM »
Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.....

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2007, 09:27:05 PM »
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 10:12:21 PM »
Most importantly...

Stupid Yahoo, what caliber and gun?!
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2007, 11:34:27 PM »
Most importantly...

Stupid Yahoo, what caliber and gun?!
This was posted on THR recently.
S&W .500 I think.

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2007, 05:44:07 AM »
Fox News had a segment on it this morning. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html

The boys father set up this website, http://www.monsterpig.com/.



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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2007, 07:54:34 AM »
There's definitely some monkey business with the first shot.

Anyway, that's still one hell of a porker!

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2007, 05:23:50 PM »
Most importantly...

Stupid Yahoo, what caliber and gun?!
This was posted on THR recently.
S&W .500 I think.

I believe that's right.

Didn't he put 8 rounds into it, then have to track it for 3 1/2 hours, then shoot it again?
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2007, 06:53:30 PM »
Look at the difference in the two pics.  In the 2nd one the hog is easily not close to 2 times the father's height.  Assuming he's 5'8" or so I'd say thats a good pic.

Now look at the portion of the kid visible vs. the length of the hog in the first pic.  That is either a totally different (unrealistic) beast or someone is playing games with Photoshop or foreshortening.

In the first pic the end of the hog's snout is bigger around than the kid's face, from snout tip to base it's as wide as his shoulders.  In the second it isn't.

So, to be complete, I call shenanigans on the first photo, in that male Kodiaks aren't that big in photos.

On a different note...

Where'd he hit it?  The spleen?

Having seen (domestic) 1,000 lb hogs, I call shenanigans on both photos. The first worst than the second.

That's not to say I can't believe it's a real hog and even real photos, just I think the kid (and in the second photo, but to a lesser degree, the kid and dad) are standing well back behind the hog to make it look bigger. In the first photo, it looks about like a Rhino-sized hog, not a 1,051 lb hog.

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2007, 07:09:23 PM »
On THR, the talk is that the hog may be real, but that the takers of the photo played tricks with perspective to make the hog seem larger.
I might believe the hog, but I want to see video with rulers, etc. Heck, I want to see it up close!


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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2007, 07:35:22 PM »
On THR, the talk is that the hog may be real, but that the takers of the photo played tricks with perspective to make the hog seem larger.
I might believe the hog, but I want to see video with rulers, etc. Heck, I want to see it up close!




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..The hog's head is now being mounted on an extra-large foam form by Jerry Cunningham of Jerry's Taxidermy in Oxford. Cunningham said the animal measured 54 inches around the head, 74 inches around the shoulders and 11 inches from the eyes to the end of its snout..


These figures are probably meaningful to a taxidermist.
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2007, 05:44:59 AM »
No need for Photoshop . . . if you just back from the hog when the picture is being taken, you can make the hog look MUCH bigger by comparison. I've got a picture of myself sitting on a Cape buffalo which doesn't look that big . . . and he was around a ton.

I guess the kid is closer to the camera in the second picture than in the first, considering how much wider bigger he looks.

They were talking about the hog on the KXAN (ABC?) morning news yesterday (5/29) . . . the female talent asked incredulously "Is that boy in the picture holding a PISTOL?!?"   rolleyes
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2007, 08:04:32 PM »
However big that hog is in relation to the boy, Smith & wesson is gonna sell a lot of Model 500s because of this.  They ought to put the kid in an ad.
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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2007, 01:22:22 PM »
Agree with Hank B.  Trick of perspective, and maybe not intentional.  All it would take would be the photographer being relatively close to the animal with the kid only a few feet behind him.  Set to wide angle it doesn't take much depth difference to really mess with the perspective.

As for the weight, I could see it.  Feral pigs will fool you.  Those suckers are dense - very little fat in comparison to a domestic hog, and muscle has more mass per unit volume than fat.  Put a domestic porker up agains a feral pig of the same exterior dimensions and the wild hog will usually outweigh it by a noticeable margin.

At any rate, that is a big, big pig.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2007, 09:22:04 AM »
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Ala. Officials Probe 'Monster Pig' Saga By JAY REEVES

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BIRMINGHAM, Ala.  State wildlife officials said Wednesday they want to know how the huge hog dubbed "Monster Pig" got into a fenced hunting preserve where it was chased down and shot to death by an 11-year-old boy.

The young hunter is not accused of doing anything illegal, but the head enforcement officer for Alabama's wildlife agency said agents are trying to determine if anyone broke a state law prohibiting the transportation and release of live feral swine . . . .

http://www.statesman.com/search/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Monster_Pig.html


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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2007, 02:09:56 PM »
Obviously they've never watched a pig root under a fence. 

Game preserve = food.

Food + wild hogs + fence = wrecked fence (and hogs where you don't want 'em)

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2007, 03:39:49 PM »
Farmers: 'Monster Pig' Not a Wild Hog, But Was Their Pet Pig 'Fred'
Friday, June 01, 2007
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FRUITHURST, Ala.   The Mystery of the Monster pig appears to have been solved.

The 1,051-pound hog, shot and killed by 11-year-old Jamison Stone and the subject of a world-wide Web firestorm over the photo's authenticity, really is...

Fred.

That's "Fred" the pig, and according to Rhonda and Phil Blissitt their humongous hog escaped on April 29, four days before it was killed, according to the Star newspaper.

Late Thursday evening, their claims were confirmed by Andy Howell, Game Warden for the Alabama Department of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.

"I didn't want to stir up anything," Rhonda Blissitt said. "I just wanted the truth to be told. That wasn't a wild pig."

Her husband agreed.

"If it went down in the record book, it would be deceiving, and we'd know that for the rest of our lives."

The monster hog gained worldwide acclaim after he was bagged by 11-year-old Jamison Stone, a Pickensville native, with a .50-caliber pistol on May 3 at the Lost Creek Plantation, LLC, a hunting preserve in Delta. The big boar was hunted inside a large, low-fence enclosure and fired upon 16 times by Stone, who struck the animal nearly a half-dozen times during the three-hour hunt.

The saga of young Jamison's hunt spread as the family posted the story and photos on their Web site, monsterpig.com.

The Blissitts said they were unaware that the hog generating all the media attention was once theirs. It wasn't until Howell spoke with Phil Blissitt that the pieces of the puzzle came together.

Phil Blissitt recalled Howell asking him about the now-famous hog.

"Did you see that pig on TV?" Phil Blissitt recalled Howell asking him. "I said, 'Yeah, I had one about that size.' He said, 'No, that one is yours.'

"That's when I knew."

Phil Blissitt purchased the pig for his wife as a Christmas gift in December of 2004. From 6 weeks old, they raised the pig as it grew to its enormous size.

Not long ago, they decided to sell off all of their pigs. Eddy Borden, owner of Lost Creek Plantation, purchased Fred.

Attempts by The Star to reach Borden were unsuccessful.

While Rhonda Blissitt was somewhat in the dark about the potential demise of her pet, Phil Blissitt said he was under the understanding that it would breed with other female pigs and then "probably be hunted."

Many other of their former pigs  like their other farm animals  had been raised for the purpose of agricultural harvest.

As the Blissitts recounted the events of the last two days, they told stories and made many references to the gentleness of their former "pet."

From his treats of canned sweet potatoes to how their grandchildren would play with him, their stories painted the picture of a gentle giant. They even talked about how their small Chihuahua would get in the pen with him and come out unscathed.

"But if they hadn't fed him in a while," Rhonda Blissitt said, "he could have gotten irate."

Phil Blissitt said he became irritated when they learned about all the doubters who said photos of Fred were doctored.

"That was a big hog," he said.

The information of the pig's previous owner came out on the same day that officials from the Fish and Wildlife concluded their investigation of the hunt. They concluded that nothing illegal happened under the guidelines of Alabama law.

Allan Andress, enforcement chief for the Alabama Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries Division, said they learned the hog's origin as the investigation unfolded.

"We were able to determine that he came from a domesticated environment," he said. "So, he was not feral to start with. Therefore, he would not violate our feral swine trapping and relocating rule."

Mike Stone, Jamison's father, contends that he was unaware of the origin of the pig. Before, during and after the hunt  and until late Thursday night, when contacted by The Star  Mike Stone was under the impression that the hog was feral.

"We were told that it was a feral hog," Mike Stone said, "and we hunted it on the pretense that it was a feral hog."

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Re: Boy bags hog bigger than hogzilla!!
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2007, 06:23:49 AM »
Poor Fred.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2007, 06:41:19 AM »
What kinda woman wants a pig for Christmas?That's what I wanna know.

One of those "WANTED,wild woman!Must know how to cook anything,field dress anything,dig worms,& have a bass boat." kinda women?