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Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« on: January 10, 2008, 07:08:36 AM »
When are the victims of the San Diego fires going to sue for outrageous sums?

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/katrinas-victims-ask-for-huge-checks/20080110085609990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Katrina's Victims Ask for Huge Checks
By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN,
AP
Posted: 2008-01-10 10:32:37
Filed Under: Nation News
NEW ORLEANS (Jan. 9) -- Hurricane Katrina's victims have put a price tag on their suffering and it is staggering  including one plaintiff seeking the unlikely sum of $3 quadrillion.

A whopping $3,014,170,389,176,410 is the dollar figure so far sought from some of the largest claims filed against the federal government over damage from the failure of levees and flood walls following the Aug. 29, 2005, hurricane.


Of roughly 489,000 total claims, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said it has received 247 for at least $1 billion apiece, including the one for $3 quadrillion.

"That's the mother of all high numbers," said Loren Scott, a Baton Rouge-based economist.

For the sake of perspective: A mere $1 quadrillion would dwarf the U.S. gross domestic product, which Scott said was $13.2 trillion in 2007. A stack of one quadrillion pennies would reach Saturn.

Some residents may have grossly exaggerated their claims to send a message to the corps, which has accepted blame for poorly designing the failed levees.

"I understand the anger," Scott said. "I also understand it's a negotiating tactic: Aim high and negotiate down."

Daniel Becnel, Jr., a lawyer who said his clients have filed more than 60,000 claims, said measuring Katrina's devastation in dollars and cents is a nearly impossible task.

"There's no way on earth you can figure it out," he said. "The trauma these people have undergone is unlike anything that has occurred in the history of our country."

The corps released zip codes, but no names, for the 247 claims of at least $1 billion. The list includes a $77 billion claim by the city of New Orleans. Fourteen involve a wrongful death claim. Fifteen were filed by businesses, including several insurance companies.

Little is known about the person who claimed $3 quadrillion. It was filed in Baker, 93 miles northwest of New Orleans. Baker is far from the epicenter of Katrina's destruction, but the city has a trailer park where hundreds of evacuees have lived since the storm.

Katrina, which is blamed for more than 1,600 deaths in Louisiana and Mississippi, is considered the most destructive storm to ever hit the U.S. It caused at least $60 billion in insured losses and could cost Gulf Coast states up to $125 billion, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Most of the claims were filed before a deadline that coincided with Katrina's second anniversary, but the Corps is still receiving them  about 100 claims have arrived over the past three weeks  and is feeding them into a computer database.

The Corps said it isn't passing judgment on the merits of each claim. Federal courts are in charge of deciding if a claim is valid and how much compensation is warranted.

"It's important to the person who filed it, so we're taking every single claim seriously," Corps spokeswoman Amanda Jones said.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 07:17:42 AM »
Why are we still supporting these people? 
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 07:25:25 AM »
I always though "Quadrillion" was a made up number like "Bajillion"  smiley
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 07:37:18 AM »
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Why are we still supporting these people?

Why do you hate black; poor or stupid people Rabbi? 

If one chooses to live in a city on a flood plain, next to a major river and coast line, with some regions of the city below sea level, don't expect the rest of us to bail you out (which is what this suit is asking for) when the forces of nature impose reality into your fantasy life.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 08:42:57 AM »
Just the stupid ones.

Natural disasters happen and people do need assistance sometimes.  But let's get real, this is what, 2 years ago?  After 2 years people are still sitting around their gov't-owned trailers wondering what the gov't is going to do for them next.  Tax payers should revolt and just let them rot there.  If conditions get intolerable, let them leave and find someplace else to live.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 09:07:00 AM »
Just the stupid ones.
 After 2 years people are still sitting around their gov't-owned trailers wondering what the gov't is going to do for them next.

Sadly, that is simply how many of them live.  If Katrina never happened, they'd be sitting around their 100 year old shacks, wondering what the government is going to do for them next.

A good friend of mine grew up in New Atlantis and still has family near, but not in, the affected area.   Shortly after the hurricane occurred, he spoke of the "culture" of many of the victims.  He said you could gather a bunch of them up, show 'em a map of the United States and half of them would recognize it.  Half of those would be able to point out approximately where on that map they live, and most of them were probably unaware that they live below sea level.  Many lived in rickety shacks, but everyone had satellite TV, cell phones, and expensive clothes.  The notion of preparedness, such as stocking up food and other supplies is alien to them, as they're accustomed to being taken care of by the gov't.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 09:29:11 AM »
Did we save the receipt so we can return LA to France & get our money back?.....  grin
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 09:29:30 AM »
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"There's no way on earth you can figure it out," he said. "The trauma these people have undergone is unlike anything that has occurred in the history of our country."

I'd have to disagree with this part.  How much different is this trauma compared to a family or a town leveled by a tornado?  How about people who lose everything when a fire rages through their neighborhood, taking out all the houses?  The floods that hit other areas?  It hasn't been too long since Grand Forks was last under water.

The only difference would be the scale - most of a city vs a town*.  Individual trauma shouldn't be anything new.

*One up in ND lost over 50% of it's buildings to a tornado last year.

I'll agree with The Rabbi here - it's been two years.  These people should have been able, for the most part, to pick up and move on with their lives.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 11:10:43 AM »
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 05:32:16 PM »
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Did we save the receipt so we can return LA to France & get our money back?..... 
I like that idea a LOT. lets take the  $23,213,568 we get (thats what we spent for it), and we can divide it up and add it to everyones tax return.the $20 i'll get out of that deal is worth WAY more than keeping the kind of people who'd re-elect a moron like Nagin again, around.In fact, lets give it back to France for free.We all still come out ahead.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 09:09:02 PM »
hmmm I just blew my Roth IRA allowance for 2007 in Dutch and German oil/gas companies. I was going to buy American but this lawsuit made me change my mind. My broker even paid for my dinner afterwards because I turned him on to a whole lot of funds he never heard of.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 04:40:28 AM »
Find the Town of Grundy on a map of Virginia.  Then look at what's across the river - you'll see the remains of the former Town of Grundy.

After getting wiped out by annual river flooding once too often, the City Fathers decided it would be better to pick up and move to the high side of the river, instead of living on the low (and often wet) side.  Yes, the state and federal governments did chip in a very hefty amount to assist in the relocation, but it added up to far less than had been expended in all the previous years for flood "relief".

To add shock to the horror of moving a town a few hundred yards laterally and somewhat less vertically, they have not been flooded ONCE since the move, and were prosperous from day 1 to the present.

Too bad there is not enough fill dirt available to help NO resolve the problem of being below sea level.  Too bad the folks who build one tarpaper shack on the ruins of the previously hurricane-flattened one before do not get the same message as was sent the folks in Grundy.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2008, 07:59:31 AM »
They should just get some crayons, make a $3 quadrillion dollar bill and pay him with it.

I wonder whose face should be on it though....

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 08:06:20 AM »
They should just get some crayons, make a $3 quadrillion dollar bill and pay him with it.
I wonder whose face should be on it though....
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 09:17:56 AM »
"My broker even paid for my dinner afterwards because I turned him on to a whole lot of funds he never heard of."  shocked shocked shocked

I'd be looking for a new broker.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2008, 09:32:28 AM »
"My broker even paid for my dinner afterwards because I turned him on to a whole lot of funds he never heard of."  shocked shocked shocked

I'd be looking for a new broker.

I can't imagine any broker would be familar with every single mutual fund out there. A lot of them have software that can search by type of holdings, min investments, ratings, etc. He had heard of the investment company just didn't know all the funds they had.



 

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2008, 07:59:56 PM »
Seeker_two wins the thread.... grin laugh

Thanks....I'd like my 5% finders fee now.....  grin
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2008, 04:10:27 AM »
Find the Town of Grundy on a map of Virginia.  Then look at what's across the river - you'll see the remains of the former Town of Grundy.

After getting wiped out by annual river flooding once too often, the City Fathers decided it would be better to pick up and move to the high side of the river, instead of living on the low (and often wet) side.  Yes, the state and federal governments did chip in a very hefty amount to assist in the relocation, but it added up to far less than had been expended in all the previous years for flood "relief".

To add shock to the horror of moving a town a few hundred yards laterally and somewhat less vertically, they have not been flooded ONCE since the move, and were prosperous from day 1 to the present.

Too bad there is not enough fill dirt available to help NO resolve the problem of being below sea level.  Too bad the folks who build one tarpaper shack on the ruins of the previously hurricane-flattened one before do not get the same message as was sent the folks in Grundy.

stay safe.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2008, 11:05:43 AM »
And then President Bush asked "Tell me again, how many is a Brazillian?"

As a good American citizen, I feel it is my DUTY to help pay for new houses for all those people who were never made aware of the possible damage to their town caused by hurricanes or floods.  So that's like, what - ZERO
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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2008, 12:26:41 PM »
They should just invite Al Queda to move in...then we'd find a quadrillion dollars to spend there.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Three Quadrillion Dollar Lawsuit
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2008, 11:37:38 PM »
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"I also understand it's a negotiating tactic: Aim high and negotiate down."

That, and he understands that his attorney will get one third of it...
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