Haredi father blocks burned toddler from Hadassah

[MicroBalrog]

Haredi father blocks burned toddler from Hadassah

Crisis between ultra-Orthodox public and Jerusalem's Hadassah Hospital surfaces again. Even though his 16-month old suffered from severe burns on her body caused by boiling water spilled on her, father refuses to allow ambulance to take his daughter to Hadassah because 'rabbi advised otherwise'
Ronen Medzini

A 16-month-old toddler, who was severely burned when boiling water spilled on her, was hospitalized Friday morning in Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem, which does not have a burn unit, because her father opposed her hospitalization in Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital. The father justified his insistent refusal, claiming that "the rabbi advised otherwise."

 
About a month ago, the tensions aroused between the hospital and the haredi community by the 'starving mother' affair seemed to have subsided. However, now it seems as though the ultra-Orthodox boycott of the hospital is alive and kicking. Magen David Adom paramedics sought to evacuate the toddler suffering from severe burns caused by boiling water to Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital because there is a specialized burn unit there.

 
The father, however, expressed his strong opposition. According to the medical team on the ambulance, the father caused a commotion on the ambulance and insisted that his daughter be taken to Shaare Zedek Medical Center.

 
"The 16-month-old toddler was apparently burned by boiling water," said to Ynet Ilya Davoner, a Jerusalem Magen David Adom paramedic who evacuated the girl to the hospital. "An ambulance arrived to evacuate her to the hospital. Halfway there, we transferred her to a mobile intensive care unit. She suffered from second-degree burns over 15% to 20% of her body. The burns were mainly on her face, chest, and shoulders."

 
"We wanted to evacuate her to Hadassah Ein Kerem hospital," he said, "but the father actively resisted, shouted, and caused a ruckus. He told us: 'Hadassah Ein Kerem doesn't treat our group well. That's what the rabbi suggested to me, and I am following the rabbi's recommendation.' The father insisted on going to Shaare Zedek Hospital despite our attempts to convince him to choose Hadassah Ein Kerem, where the treatment options are better considering the toddler's health condition. She is currently hospitalized at Shaare Zedek."

 
Hezi Rot, on call for United Hatzalah, a volunteer emergency medical service, provided first aid to the toddler outside the family's home. "The parents came downstairs with the toddler towards the medical team," he said.

 
"She was naked and wrapped in wet towels that the family had dressed her in. She suffered from burns all over her body from a pot of boiling water that spilled on her. Her skin was peeling. It was a serious burn. We immediately provided her first aid with bandaging. The parents were very stressed, panicked."

 
Rot recounted that some neighbors on the spot pressured the parents not to take the girl to Hadassah Ein Kerem: "This is a family with children. Of course they were very stressed. At the same time, a group of neighbors messed with their minds with protest. They said, especially to the mother: 'No way should you take her to Hadassah Ein Kerem.' Apparently, the pressure worked."

 
Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital has withheld comment at this time

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3797803,00.html[

Micro sez:

Now, I'll be the first one to support parental independence, but seriously. WAT.

[Cromlech]

I'm not Religious so it is a moot point anyway, but I'd be damned if I let a child of mine suffer more then they need to with burns just because of what my Church/Synagogue/Mosque says.

[RevDisk]

Hear about the Haredi rabbi that allegedly maced a lady for not crossing the street when he told her to?  Or the "modesty guard" that's been beating up chicks and American students around Beit Israel?

[MicroBalrog]

I'm quite aware of the Modesty Guards' shenanigans. Mace-rabbi is new to me, though.

[Stand_watie]

      This story I'm linking to should do your heart good micro. A man (apparently Jewish, ethnically speaking if his last name is an indicator), who is  apparently irreligious standing up to religious zealouts who want to impose their mores on him.

     http://gothamist.com/2009/10/28/muslims_request_to_move_bar_laughed.php


Muslims Threaten Breslin Owner After He Laughs Off Bar Demand

The lovely-looking restaurant and bar The Breslin begins lunch service tomorrow, and co-owner Ken Friedman (The Spotted Pig) is planning on serving alcohol despite objections from the Masjid Ar-Rahman mosque across the street. Earlier this month the mosque’s leaders called a meeting with Friedman at The Ace Hotel, where The Breslin is located, and asked, "Can you move the bar?" Friedman's response makes us want to hurry over to The Breslin right now for a dram of Laphroaig to show our support (and drown out the voices):

I laughed. And the guy said, "Oh, you think that’s funny?" And I said, "Yeah, that is funny, that is really funny, because we’re not going to move the bar just because you discovered we’re serving booze." Can you name one restaurant in New York that doesn’t serve booze? I said, "This is the United States of America and we’ll do whatever the  (heck) we want." He said the mosque had suggested it couldn’t control the behavior of "a few bad eggs"; i.e., we could get a brick through our window.
Friedman notified police of the threat, but just to show he's not a hard-hearted man, that it's not all dollars and cents, he agreed to put a curtain over the windows so devout Muslims wouldn't be corrupted by the sight of infidel inebriation. But the curtain hasn't arrived yet, so over the weekend he actually taped paper over the windows to hide a gay wedding. A volunteer at the mosque says city law forbids serving liquor within 200 feet of a place of worship and that "not more than 200 feet is between the mosque and the bar."

But Ace Hotel developer Andrew Zobler tells The Observer, "The law is clear that in order for that to apply it has to be an exclusively dedicated house of worship, and at their space they have both residences and a restaurant, so basically, because of those uses the law allowed there to be a bar within 200 feet. Everyone was aware of that when the liquor license was granted." And Friedman adds, "They can threaten, but they can’t really stop us." Yeah, heh, what are these devout, pissed-off Muslims gonna do?

[HankB]

By denying a badly-injured child access to the best medical care based on a rabbi's recommendations, it sounds like these haredi are very near to crossing the line into human sacrifice.

Since this is "armed POLITE society" I'll refrain from expressing my true feelings . . . but suffice it to say, what I think should happen to the little child's sperm donor (I won't dignify him with the term "father") ain't pretty. 

[RevDisk]

I'm quite aware of the Modesty Guards' shenanigans. Mace-rabbi is new to me, though.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3795237,00.html

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1123825.html

Chick refused to walk on the "Chick sidewalk", so the nice rabbi decided to save her soul from her heresy.  With mace.

Notice the clever comment by Eda Haredit, "Rabbi Kreus never laid a hand on anyone."  Unless the translation is bad, that's a very clever way of not lying and seeming to deny the accusation.  I gotta admit, that did make me chuckle.

[MicroBalrog]

By denying a badly-injured child access to the best medical care based on a rabbi's recommendations, it sounds like these haredi are very near to crossing the line into human sacrifice.

This is due to the previous idiocy I've posted about - the woman who starved her child. The Orthodox believe, now, that Hadassa deliberately lies  to the police to get them to imprison them or take their children.

[Balog]

This is due to the previous idiocy I've posted about - the woman who starved her child. The Orthodox believe, now, that Hadassa deliberately lies  to the police to get them to imprison them or take their children.

I'm all for parental rights and the state not taking kids, but this definitely qualifies as intervention time.

[Seenterman]

Stupid parents.

[Antibubba]

Is there a Haredi backlash movement, Micro?  And if there is, how can I join?   

[KD5NRH]

Is there a Haredi backlash movement, Micro?  And if there is, how can I join?   

Apply at your local mosque.