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Watch your credit card interest rates...
« on: February 07, 2008, 07:11:05 AM »
Looks like companies that got burned big time by their piss poor mortgage lending practices are now looking towards their credit card customers to make up some of the shortfall.

Card holders are being re-evaluated, and apparently even if you were considered to be low risk before the new "we gotta turn a profit somehow" criteria may result in your rate shooting up.

And yeah, yeah, for those of you who don't believe in credit cards, or you think they're a tool of Satan, or whatever, good for you.

Start your own thread if you feel the need to share how superior a financial manager you are...
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 07:13:04 AM »
Um... does it stand to reason that the folks with unpaid subprime mortgages are going to be the same folks with already high credit card balances and interest rates?

Just sayin', is all.

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 07:16:58 AM »
Um... does it stand to reason that the folks with unpaid subprime mortgages are going to be the same folks with already high credit card balances and interest rates?

I would expect so, in which case the banks are quickly going to find that they can't get blood from a stone. Or those cardholders will just quit paying and the banks are going to have another "crisis", etc...

I was in a restaurant the other day where a lady with a wallet full of cards went through four declines before getting an acceptance, so the others were maxed. It wasn't a cheap restaurant, either. I shudder to think what interest they're racking up every month.

Maybe now they'll quit sending pre-approved credit card offers to everyone and their dog. Just like the subprime model, that had to reach a point of implosion as well.

BTW, if you've got cards, check your rates and your fees, too. Some less-nice banks have decided to get mad at you if you actually carry zero balance or pay off your balance every month before they can get a nice piece of interest.

AmEx is good to have if you travel overseas a lot, but good lord, the fees they charge...

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 07:20:06 AM »
Yeah, they can (and will) jack up your interest rate for any reason they want.  Even if you make all your payments to them on time.  I once had a dispute with a dentist, who charged me more than we agreed.  I didn't pay him, he sent me to collections, and it wound up on my credit report.  One credit card company (don't remember which one) picked it up and raised my rate to about 26%.  You're stuck unless you can pay off the balance.

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 07:30:01 AM »
Um... does it stand to reason that the folks with unpaid subprime mortgages are going to be the same folks with already high credit card balances and interest rates?

Just sayin', is all.

In some cases, yes, but in other cases, no.

But the people with subprime mortgages are likely already paying higher rates, and have been for some time.

Why?

Because they didn't qualify for a conforming mortgage in the first place.

These companies have FAR more credit card customers than they do mortgage customers.

And not all risk revolves around having a subprime mortgage.

You can have great credit, but if one of the companies decides that you have too many credit cards, or if the total of your extensible credit is too high (even if you haven't tapped it) it's very possible that you're going to be reassessed at a higher risk level and your card rates will be go up.

At one time a few years ago I got into an interesting situation. I hadn't been paying much attention to what was going on behind the scenes with my credit cards. The issuers kept raising my available credit without my approval or knowledge. Next thing I know I have nearly $100,000 room on my credit cards.

The kicker was that one of the companies that had been raising my credit limit then decided out of the blue that I had too much free credit and was now a risk, so they jacked my rate from 8.99% to 21%.

I called them on it and they wouldn't budge, even though they had been the ones who caused the situation.

So, I immediately paid off the balance on the card (not all that much).

The woman on the other end offered to cancel the card. No no no! I might NEED it, I told her. Oh, by the way, I have e-mail statements now, I need those changed back to paper, please. E-mail problems, you know...

For the next 3 years, once a month I charged a single cup of coffee at 7-11, waited for the paper statement to come in, and then paid it with a check.

Why? Becuase minor transactions, paper statements, and checks cost them money, far more money than they were earning from me.
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 08:09:33 AM »
Mike, I *LIKE* that....


CapitalOne has gotten me a little peeved lately....  Changing the terms of my card, etc... 

Granted, I'm carrying a zero balance on that card, so most of it didn't really matter.  But now they've decided to start charging me a $4/month inactivity fee.....

I guess I'll be getting paper statements again...

Oh, and I think I might be charging my $1.29 cup of coffee at the local stop & rob.....  That I get maybe once a month (usually bring coffee from home when I'm at work).

And pay it with a check.  Mailed in the (pre-paid) envelope.  Or better yet, maybe I'll enclose $1.29 in CASH!   Smiley
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 08:13:02 AM »
Hum...

Interesting, I have a Cap1 card that I've not used in a couple of months. I'm going to have to see if they are going to start popping me with that fee.


"Mailed in the (pre-paid) envelope."

PRE PAID?

I haven't seen a prepaid envelope for a credit card bill in over 25 years and even back then they were rare as all hell.

I thought about doing the cash routine, but that can get kind of dicey. If someone decides to pocket the cash, the slam you with a late fee.
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 08:29:58 AM »
Hmmm.  Yeah, the last envelope that I saw w/ my statement was prepaid..... 

I thought it was odd too, since I hadn't seen them before.

Maybe someone stuffed the wrong envelope into the envelope.  Besides, I usually paid that card online anyways....   *meh*  I'll have to look at it again next month.
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 01:47:20 PM »
Yeah AMEX chopped a couple thou off the top of our limit.  Bastages.
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 11:58:43 PM »
I'll have to keep an eye out for that Cap1 inactivity fee since I don't use that card.  Charging me that fee will mean immediate cancellation.  I don't have the patience to charge a cup of coffee and pay the balance with a check.

I stopped using my Cap1 card when they increased my rate from 6.99 to prime + X merely because the market changed and they got caught holding the bag. 

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 02:16:56 AM »
"I don't have the patience to charge a cup of coffee and pay the balance with a check."

You just don't have a finely tuned sense of "SCREW YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!"  cheesy
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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 04:57:38 AM »
Mike, I think it's unrealistic to believe that *anybody* has tuned that sense as finely as you have.

Seriously.

You're a true inspiration to the children.

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 05:15:23 AM »
Mike, I think it's unrealistic to believe that *anybody* has tuned that sense as finely as you have.

Seriously.

You're a true inspiration to the children.


Oh, trust me, Azrael...

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 05:46:11 AM »
"I don't have the patience to charge a cup of coffee and pay the balance with a check."

You just don't have a finely tuned sense of "SCREW YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!"  cheesy

Any company that has pissed me off that I pay money to for services, such as cable compnaies, cell phones etc. I make them send me a mail statement, but I'll pay online or send a check for a higher amount than required by a few cents.

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 06:36:08 AM »
I have a Crappital One card and haven't looked over my terms lately.   I should probably do that.  shocked

Any time I get junk mail with a pre-paid return envelope, I stuff it with other junk mail and send it back.  I pay all of my credit cards online so if any of them are socking me with hidden fees, their return envelops will join in the fun.  grin

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Re: Watch your credit card interest rates...
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 06:39:22 AM »
Yeah AMEX chopped a couple thou off the top of our limit.  Bastages.

That's to be expected. They heard you were building a new McCrapshack and blowing your debt load out of the water.

OVER EXTENDED! OVER EXTENDED!

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 06:43:29 AM »
Over Extended is the American Dream, right? 
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