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FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« on: April 27, 2008, 03:45:33 PM »
Got a boat? Prepare for more fun and bureaucracy!

I love the logic. The solution for the "threat" of small boats blowing up stuff in our inland waterways...is more forms to fill out, and requirements to keep copies of safety certificates and federal licenses on board your recreational boat. O_o

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Homeland Security to Unveil Plan to Guard Against Small Boat Attacks

Sunday , April 27, 2008

WASHINGTON 
As boating season approaches, the Bush administration wants to enlist the country's 80 million recreational boaters to help reduce the chances that a small boat could deliver a nuclear or radiological bomb somewhere along the country's 95,000 miles of coastline and inland waterways.

According to an April 23 intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press, "The use of a small boat as a weapon is likely to remain Al Qaeda's weapon of choice in the maritime environment, given its ease in arming and deploying, low cost, and record of success."

While the United States has so far been spared this type of strike in its own waters, terrorists have used small boats to attack in other countries.

The millions of humble dinghies, fishing boats and smaller cargo ships that ply America's waterways are not nationally regulated as they buzz around ports, oil tankers, power plants and other potential terrorist targets.

This could allow terrorists in small boats to carry out an attack similar to the USS Cole bombing, says Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen. That 2000 attack killed 17 American sailors in Yemen when terrorists rammed a dinghy packed with explosives into the destroyer. "There is no intelligence right now that there's a credible risk" of this type of attack, Allen says. "But the vulnerability is there."

To reduce the potential for such an attack in the United States, the Department of Homeland Security has developed a new strategy intended to increase security by enhancing safety standards. The Coast Guard is part of the department.

On Monday officials will announce the plan, which asks states to develop and enforce safety standards for recreational boaters and asks them to look for and report suspicious behavior on the water  much like a neighborhood watch program. The government will also look to develop technology that will help detect dangerous materials and other potential warning signs.

The United States has spent billions of dollars constructing elaborate defenses against the monster cargo ships that could be used by terrorists, including strict regulations for containers and shipping.

"When that oil tanker is coming from the Middle East, we know everything about it before it gets here," said John Fetterman, deputy chief of Maine's marine patrol. But when it comes to small boats, he said, "nobody knows a lot about them."

Initially the government considered creating a federal license for recreational boat operators, but that informal proposal was immediately shot down by boating organizations. Coast Guard and homeland security officials have toured the country in the past year to sound out the boating industry and its enthusiasts. While the government insists there will be no federal license, the strategy suggests that the government consider registering and regulating recreational boats.

There are about 18 million small boats in the country, contributing to a $39.5 billion industry, according to a 2006 estimate from the National Marine Manufacturers Association.

Fetterman and his officers regularly get intelligence reports about unknown or unrecognized boaters taking pictures of a bridge or measurements of a dam. But he says there just aren't enough officers on the water to address every report.

The only way to police the waterfront, says maritime security expert Stephen Flynn, "is to get as many of the participants who are part of that community to be essentially on your side." Flynn, a fellow with the Council on Foreign Relations, says treating boaters as allies rather than as a threat will go a long way.

The government has taken tentative first steps to secure the waterways, but at a much slower pace than the effort aimed at large container ships.

Small boats are not the top terrorist threat facing the United States, officials say. But the nation shouldn't wait to be attacked, said Vayl Oxford, the head of homeland security's Domestic Nuclear Detection Office. "We just cannot allow ourselves to get to the point where we're managing consequences," he said.

Oxford's office is leading two pilot programs that train and arm harbor patrols with portable radiological and nuclear detection equipment, starting with Seattle's Puget Sound. A similar program for San Diego is in the planning stages.

Many local departments across the country have been concerned with the small boat threat. The New York Police Department has scuba teams and marine units equipped with radiation detection that patrol New York waters. But few departments across the country have similar resources.

That is why the strategy is intended to create a layered defense that would create a national federal standard to operate a boat, Allen says.

The Coast Guard will work with states to establish minimum safety standards and ways to enforce the new rules. That may include requiring boat operators to have a copy of the safety certification on board with them and a piece of identification that links them to the certificate.

That's important, security officials say, because currently there is no uniform requirement for pleasure boaters to have identification on board with them on the water.

The government defines small boats as any vessel less than 300 tons.

The new strategy will not only create more awareness on the water, but additional state safety requirements could have other benefits: keeping boats shipshape and having their inspections up to date; more lifesaving equipment on board; and possibly fewer drunken people operating boats, said California's homeland security adviser Matthew Bettenhausen.

In 2006, there were 710 boating deaths, more than 3,400 injuries and close to $44 million worth of property damage, according to the latest statistics from the Coast Guard. Of the 710 deaths, 70 percent occurred on boats operated by someone who did not have boating safety instruction.

"To the extent you can limit those kinds of problems, that means there's more resources that can be focused on the terrorism-prevention mission," Bettenhausen said.

"This is the way you buy down the risk," said Mark Dupont, a senior intelligence officer with Florida's department of Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

Requiring minimum safety instruction may very well make the waters safer, says Mark Jambretz, a 36-year-old recreational boater in San Francisco. But Jambretz is skeptical that it would have an impact on the terror threat.

"As long as you have sailboats or powerboats running up along a giant container ship  or any type of ship  you wouldn't be able to tell them from a boat loaded with anything else," he said.

But Allen says the boater that is on the water every weekend knows where people fish and knows when a boat near a piece of critical infrastructure looks out of place.

"The small-boat community is not the problem," he said. But he added that with this strategy, they would now be part of the solution.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352790,00.html

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 04:15:35 PM »
They want to do the same thing to general aviation aircraft. They even want to add a device to the airplane to let them know who is flying it at any time angry

DHS is really overstepping its bounds, particuarly for an agency that should never have been created in the first place.
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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 04:18:52 PM »
They want to do the same thing to general aviation aircraft. They even want to add a device to the airplane to let them know who is flying it at any time angry

DHS is really overstepping its bounds, particuarly for an agency that should never have been created in the first place.


A device...uh. You mean the transponder that already tells ATC what the aircraft is? Department of redundancy department?

And like an aircraft was was up to no good would not turn that OFF, just like they might turn off their transponder?!

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 04:33:09 PM »
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A device...uh. You mean the transponder that already tells ATC what the aircraft is? Department of redundancy department?

And like an aircraft was was up to no good would not turn that OFF, just like they might turn off their transponder?!

A transponder merely transmits a code assigned by ATC, with the transponder set and controlled by the pilot, and acts as a tracking beacon for ATC radar. This device Skeltor Chertoff wants to install transmits the identity of the pilot, gaining it through something like a fingerprint reader, I guess.

It pisses me off greatly. I can live with and understand the purpose of a transponder (safety and traffic separation). The ID device is pure invasion of privacy. And it would probably be permanently active.







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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 04:40:29 PM »
Just like all of the fun gun laws we have that law abiding criminals everwhere follow to make the cops' job easier?

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 05:53:34 PM »
Wait until someone tells them that terrorists can use bicycles, roller skates, and pogo sticks.  rolleyes
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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 01:57:10 AM »
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On Monday officials will announce the plan, which asks states to develop and enforce safety standards for recreational boaters and asks them to look for and report suspicious behavior on the water  much like a neighborhood watch program.


All those boats hanging around next to bridges, up close to dams, piers, and pilings are now going to be declared DANGEROUS!  And the Coast Guard, in its DHS role, will start patrolling those areas.  I'll bet the Coasties will start dropping grappling lines overboard in an attempt to check if the DANGEROUS boaters had dropped anything overboard near those structures.  Given the confined and restricted areas we are discussing, I'm betting the Coasties will be using lightweight lines and miniature grappling hooks deployed from precision-placement devices constructed from either split bamboo or some sort of super graphite resin.  Who knows, there might even be a program to train minnows to conduct underwater searches once deployed into specific areas.

Sounds to me like the bureaucrats just figured out a way to hog all the good fishing spots for themselves.

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 07:31:58 AM »
Might as well go after cars, trucks, motorcycles and tricycles, Skeletor!  police  angry angry angry
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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 08:25:46 AM »
Oh good, I feel safer already. 

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 08:32:16 AM »
Wait'll people start reporting a small boat with a couple of guys in camouflage with guns in it, guys who seem to be looking up at the sky for something...maybe an airplane!

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Re: FedGov, DHS to poke nose into licensing recreational boats
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 08:38:41 AM »
Alright, who's the idiot that sent Chertoff the picture of the guy firing an AK47 in some African Civil War while wearing a PFD ??   rolleyes
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