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The Annoyed Man

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2008, 03:43:52 AM »
If I were recommending multi-day backpacks for 3 season backpacking up north I would have you look at the following packs.

Gregory Baltaro or Triconi. They build tough durable packs and folks generally rave about how great the suspension and hip belts are on them. They are 70 and 60 liter packs respectively which should easily swallow up food and gear for a multi day trip. They are not the lightest option out there but the superior ergonomics make up for the extra weight.

I would also look at the Osprey packs, the Atmos 65 or the Aether 70. The Aether has a heat molded hip belt so it conforms to your hips. Osprey builds lighter packs that still can handle carrying weight comfortably.

Trying on a pack with weight in it and walking around the store will help you decide which brand fits you best. Going to REI or another outfitter that knows how to fit a pack is a really good idea. There are a lot of folks out there suffering because either the pack doesn't fit their torso or they don't have the load lifter, stabilizer and shoulder straps adjusted properly. While it isn't rocket science there are some rules of thumb and tricks to getting a good fitting pack.

Like I mentioned earlier the weight of your pack is probably one of the last places I would go to for cutting weight. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, shelter, cook set and dumping rarely/never used items are places I would start.

If you are going to carry a synthetic bag, inflatable pad, 3 season tent w/fly and saws/hatchets you aren't going to be ultra light.

You mentioned your pack was around 45lbs, how big a guy are you?

With a proper pack most can carry 35- 40lbs without extreme discomfort.

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2008, 03:50:00 AM »
In mountaineering, ultralight can work better in extremes because of the reduction of fatigue. There are some items which are critical, and they vary depending on the type of climb, altitude and worst possible conditions. These must allow for lower temperature extremes, and any stall in progress due to a sudden change in conditions. Poor planning, mishaps and general pilot error cause more fatalities than anything else.

Choosing clothing for weather extremes, footwear etc is critical. I invested early on in the best I could buy, with different options for different ventures and possible temperature extremes. As many errors as were made at one time or another early on, the right stuff proved it worth later on.

On lower ground, the woods etc, it has been more a matter of comfort. Again though, it depends where you are. Sudden changes in weather have killed many people at the most trifling elevations in mid summer in the temperate zones. There are plenty of choices in clothing and footwear to keep you relatively warm and dry in the worst conditions of the temperate zone. Careful choices can keep the weigh down quite well without sacrificing any safety or comfort.
 

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2008, 04:06:42 AM »
We are approaching subject this from all around the country and many different type of climates. Most of the principles of how to not only survive but prosper and have fun in the wilderness are the same but what works in the desert southwest isn't immediately applicable to April in the northwoods.

I just don't want to see someone just starting out backpacking wandering into the woods of the UP with an ill fitting UL pack, only a tarp and get in trouble two days deep into the woods.  Being soaking wet when it is in the 50's is a recipe for hypothermia.

There isn't anyone who posted anything I really disagree with, many ways to skin a cat and all. Having stomped around some of the places he is considering, taking time of year/weather and skill level into account I want to help him make good choices. Having suffered being too heavy I don't want him to suffer at the opposite extreme being too light. 

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2008, 04:33:17 AM »
I seem to be saying this a lot lately, but.....

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The Annoyed Man

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2008, 04:38:34 AM »
I seem to be saying this a lot lately, but.....

Pssst, Ron. Bridgewalker is a lady.

Sorry about that! I haven't been on the board much lately so I never picked up on that!

The Gregory and Osprey packs made for women are still great choices and whatever I said about them still holds true.

My friend Amy who is in some of the pics at the earlier link I posted just bought a Gregory Deva and loves it, way better than her worn out REI pack she was using (nothing wrong with the REI packs, hers was just shot).


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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2008, 05:57:36 AM »
Like I mentioned earlier the weight of your pack is probably one of the last places I would go to for cutting weight. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, shelter, cook set and dumping rarely/never used items are places I would start.

Yep.  All of those taken into account.

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If you are going to carry a synthetic bag, inflatable pad, 3 season tent w/fly and saws/hatchets you aren't going to be ultra light.

No inflatable pad.  Bivy style tent, no poles, single-wall.  No saws/hatchets. 

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You mentioned your pack was around 45lbs, how big a guy are you?

5'8"/180.  Balog covered the rest.  cheesy

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With a proper pack most can carry 35- 40lbs without extreme discomfort.

Yep.  The point isn't to avoid extreme discomfort.  The point is to enhance comfort and ability to enjoy walking.

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2008, 06:01:07 AM »
The Gregory and Osprey packs made for women are still great choices and whatever I said about them still holds true.

Men's packs generally fit me better.

Fwiw, the sort of goal/plan in porkies or pictured rocks or some other NCT sections in spring, then Isle Royale in midsummer.  It would be neat to do Isle Royale in the off season, but probably not gonna happen.

Yeah, I was actually planning on working out appropriate gear for the weather. I am finding, however, that that can generally be done quite lightly.

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Re: Ultralight backpacking
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2008, 12:55:53 PM »
You should swing by the Backpacker magazine forums.

The ultralight and gear forums are pretty active.

http://forums.backpacker.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi