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Foreign banks may get help
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:52:05 AM »
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=84A8A9EC-18FE-70B2-A85293E1618E3E9D

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In a change from the original proposal sent to Capitol Hill, foreign-based banks with big U.S. operations could qualify for the Treasury Departments mortgage bailout, according to the fine print of an administration statement Saturday night.

The theory, according to a participant in the negotiations, is that if the goal is to solve a liquidity crisis, it makes no sense to exclude banks that do a lot of lending in the United States.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson confirmed the change on ABC's "This Week," telling George Stephanopoulos, calling the coverage of foreign-based banks "a distinction without a difference to the American people."

"If a financial institution has business operations in the United States, hires people in the United States, if they are clogged with illiquid assets, they have the same impact on the American people as any other institution," Paulson said.

"That's a distinction without a difference to the American people. The key here is protecting the system. ... We have a global financial system and we are talking very aggressively with other countries around the world and encouraging them to do similar things, and I believe a number of them will. But, remember, this is about protecting the American people and protecting the taxpayers. and the American people don't care who owns the financial institution. If the financial institution in this country has problems, it'll have the same impact whether it's the U.S. or foreign."

The legislative outline that went to Capitol Hill at 1:30 a.m. Saturday had said that an eligible financial institution had to have has its headquarters in the United States. That would exclude foreign-based institutions with big U.S. operations, such as Barclays, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Royal Bank of Scotland and UBS. The theory, according to a participant in the negotiations, is that if the goal is to solve a liquidity crisis, it makes no sense to exclude banks that do a lot of lending in the United States.

But a Treasury Fact Sheet released at 7:15 last night sought to give the administration more flexibility, with an expanded definition that could include all of those banks: Participating financial institutions must have significant operations in the U.S., unless the Secretary makes a determination, in consultation with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, that broader eligibility is necessary to effectively stabilize financial markets.

The major change in the suggested eligibility requirements is the biggest change that Treasury publicly made after a day of briefings and conversations with Capitol Hill, and is likely the first of many.

Aspects of the $700 billion, two-year proposal that are still under negotiation include what, if anything, will be added to the administrations simple but sweeping proposal. And the parliamentary route, such as what committees or hearings might be involved, has not been finalized.

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) has a hearing scheduled for Wednesday that is likely to focus on the proposal.

Under what congressional officials called a likely scenario, the measure could go to the House floor on Thursday, with passage expected the same day.

The Senate could take the package up as soon as Friday and send it to President Bush for his signature, although the Senate schedule is less predictable and had not been determined.

Officials expect passage by huge margins in both chambers, since Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have told congressional leaders the countrys financial stability depends on it.

House Democrats plan to insist on adding protections for homeowners facing foreclosure, and want to add measure to help homeowners facing bankruptcy, and an executive compensation restriction designed to prevent golden parachutes for the heads of troubled institutions.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who was supportive of the bailout concept in a statement released Friday, thinks that whatever gets done in Congress has to protect Main Street, senior adviser Stephanie Cutter said on MSNBC on Saturday.

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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 12:36:22 PM »
I can't say much more than "Arggh!" to that.  We are in deep kimchee.  And there may not be a way out.
If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 12:40:10 PM »
There's a way out: Accept the pain; stop taking the junk.
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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 12:45:05 PM »
There's a way out: Accept the pain; stop taking the junk.

IMHO, it's too late.
If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

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My wife often says to me, "You are evil and must be destroyed." She may be right.

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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 02:27:29 PM »
And the Dems want to make it even worse by tagging on a whole lot of entitlements.

Schumer was all "We have to keep everyone in their homes!"

No, Chuck. We don't. Not if they bought way more house than they can afford. That's called "stupid", and you don't reward it, or you encourage more of it while at the same time spitting in the face of the fiscally responsible.

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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 03:16:40 AM »
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"That's a distinction without a difference to the American people. The key here is protecting the system. ... We have a global financial system and we are talking very aggressively with other countries around the world and encouraging them to do similar things, and I believe a number of them will. But, remember, this is about protecting the American people and protecting the taxpayers
Who is "We"? And what is the distinction between "the American people" and "the taxpayers"?

Ah yes, so now the American people have global fianancial liabilities compliments of "we".

It really is time to get these bloodsuckers off our backs

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Re: Foreign banks may get help
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 06:54:56 AM »
No, Chuck. We don't. Not if they bought way more house than they can afford. That's called "stupid", and you don't reward it, or you encourage more of it while at the same time spitting in the face of the fiscally responsible.

Not only that, but it'll prop up the artificially inflated home values.  A decent home should be affordable to a working family with a decent income without getting into crazy mortgages.