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Sheriff's order destroys home
« on: November 20, 2008, 10:56:54 AM »
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Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2008
Sheriff's order destroys home
SAYS HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE TO CLEAR NICHOLAS COUNTY HIGHWAY BLOCKED FOR NINE HOURS
By Mary Meehan - mmeehan1@herald-leader.com

CARLISLE — There's little undisputed in this story, the tale of the tipped trailer.

Frances Barton's single-wide, the one she had fully paid $5,000 for and was hoping to move to a little piece of land she was buying on a $250-a-month land contract, is now literally in pieces on Jim Gaunce's front lawn.

And, everyone agrees, that leaves some 12 people — four adults and eight children ranging from 3 months to 12 years — facing Thanksgiving with no place to live.

How, exactly, the mobile home came to this odd resting place is where the story gets complicated. On Friday, Barton hired a guy to put her house on a trailer and move it up U.S. 68 in Nicholas County. When the trailer broke down and the house blocked the highway for hours on end, the sheriff got involved.

Barton, and the extended web of friends and family who lived with her, claim authorities didn't give them time to clear out a house full of furniture, much less clothing and the things that can't be replaced such as pictures, favorite toys and baseball card collections.

Barton's boyfriend, Alan Gaunce, no relation to Jim, said somebody — he's not sure who — told him he'd be shot if he didn't get out of the trailer before it was toppled. Barton, a grandma at 35 with gold streaks in red hair, tearfully contends that Nicholas County Sheriff Dick Garrett "showed no respect for my home" when he ultimately ordered two tractors to ram the thing and set it on its side.

On the other hand, Garrett, a wiry chain-smoker who ran for re-election with the slogan of "More 'Dick' in 2006," maintains that anybody who thinks it's a fine plan to pay somebody $200 to move their 25-year-old home, all their belongings, and a passel of pets with a farm tractor can't exactly complain when things go wrong.

"I know I wouldn't pay somebody $200 to move my house and everything in it," said Garrett, noting that the group didn't have a required permit or escort. Basically, he said, he could have arrested the lot of them: Barton, her brood and the hauler. The charge, he said: "being ignorant."

To be fair, the partial closing of U.S. 68 for some nine hours on a Friday night is pretty major in Nicholas County, where Garrett Tuesday was reviewing a Mayberry-like constituent call concerning a thwarted attempt to snatch a fresh cherry pie from a kitchen.

He said he did all he could think of to salvage the mobile home, but had to get the road clear. "It's a federal highway," said Garrett, who stood in the rain from roughly 4:30 p.m. Friday until 2 a.m. directing traffic with the rest of his force, a single deputy.

"I'm sorry it happened," he said, "I really am."

But, asked what he would have done differently, Garrett said, "I'd have knocked it over sooner."

Barton spent more than an hour Tuesday standing and crying next to a 10-foot-high pile of wooden walls and pink insulation, sometimes cradling her daughter's doll, one starting to show signs of black mildew after sitting in the damp remnants of the house. Over and over, she said, "Everything is gone. I've lost everything. It's all I had."

Barton, who helps manage the mobile park where she lived, paid for her home with a settlement from an automobile accident. It's the first home she's owned by herself.

She said she thought the man she hired to move her home knew what he was doing. Chris "Pancake" Meyers told her, she said, that he had more than 13 years' experience in hauling things and that he had the proper permits and insurance for the move. (She didn't ask to see proof of insurance or a permit, she said. Meyers could not be reached for comment Tuesday by the Herald-Leader.)

About 1½ miles into the move, the tires popped off. Sheriff Garrett said he's heard that somebody warned the group the tires would be loose and they should stop the move. He said Barton insisted on going ahead.

And soon found herself in front of Jim Gaunce's house on U.S. 68. Garrett said over the course of the evening, he did everything he could think of to get the house unstuck so it could be salvaged. But, he said, several of the well-intentioned efforts did significant damage to the house. For example, trying to push with one truck from behind while pulling from the front resulted in the hitch coming off and Barton's blue-walled bedroom being crushed.

Lee Roberts, owner of Roberts Heavy-Duty Towing in Lexington, said his company was called in to help. "We tried to pull the trailer back on the road but couldn't without tearing it to pieces."

When asked to push it off the road to clear the traffic flow, Roberts said he declined to do so.

That's when, Garrett said, he called on Meyers and another farmer with a tractor to tip the trailer.

He said he gave Barton and her friends and family at least two hours to get out what they needed and asked more than once if they had everything they wanted before he issued the order to push. Garrett said he didn't know how badly damaged the trailer might be, but thought he had no other choice.

Barton said she collapsed before the final destruction and was taken away by a friend, but Alan Gaunce said Garrett told him the cleanup was "all up to you, baby."

Garret said he has given Barton 10 days to clean up the mess. He's already talked to the county attorney about charges if the debris hasn't been removed. Even as looky-loos slowed while driving by the wrecked house and an increasing number of clumps of insulation littered Jim Gaunce's yard, Garrett said it's not the responsibility of the county to do the demolition or removal.

Without money, Barton said, she's relying on friends to dismantle and move the trash. At least two of the men working Tuesday said they took off time from their jobs on horse farms to help and are working with hammers, a sledge hammer and a chain saw. The Red Cross paid for a hotel room for a few days, but now Barton is on her own. The family, a mishmash of real kin and unofficially adopted kids, teens and young adults, are crammed into a smaller trailer while Barton tries to sort through it all.

Jim Gaunce, an amiable great-grandfather, watched most of it unfold from his rocker in a sunny living room with windows so spotless birds frequently thud into the glass while trying to fly through.

He's sympathetic to both sides and willing, he said, to be patient as the mess is cleaned up. He worries that the insulation might blow into nearby farms, get eaten by cattle and do some major internal organ damage, putting a dent in someone's livelihood.

But he knows one thing for sure. "Somebody," he said, sitting calmly as a chain saw roared, "is going to have to clean that thing up."
Staff writer Amy Wilson contributed to this report. Reach Mary Meehan at (859) 231-3261.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 11:06:47 AM »
Kind of a comic tragedy. Real stupid life choices going on there, real stupid locals all around, but set in some poverty that makes Borat's hometown look prosperous. Nicholas county is rough.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 11:32:53 AM »
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Barton, a grandma at 35 . . .
Taken with the rest of the story, it seems this is one time the stereotype of trailer folks does fit.  ;/
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 06:53:41 PM »
For a minute there, I thought it came off the Onion.  Almost makes me want to buy a trailer park just for the comedy.  Ever notice that they all have red hair?  You know, buy a trailer, get a free lifetime supply of red hair dye...
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 07:25:24 PM »
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 08:20:09 PM »
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 08:53:24 PM »
A stretch of bad weather could have shut that road down for at least that long.  I fail to see how that kind of destruction serves a useful purpose in the long run.



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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 09:04:44 PM »
I've carefully studied the story and the link, but can find no references to The Onion. What's going on here?
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 09:11:28 PM »
A stretch of bad weather could have shut that road down for at least that long.  I fail to see how that kind of destruction serves a useful purpose in the long run.


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Hell, we had stretches of I-80 closed for almost an entire day several times last year due to wildfires.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 09:12:24 PM »
This needs to be a movie script, NOW.

You could smash the comedy charts just by roughly transcribing everything that was said by the parties involved.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 09:49:20 PM »
I just don't see how the liability can fall anywhere but on the hauler who was being paid to do the job; he claimed to have experience and insurance for it, and the "vehicle" was under his control at the time.

On the other hand, I wouldn't trust a guy who goes by "Pancake" to haul a doghouse.


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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 10:25:43 PM »
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 11:24:38 PM »
Maybe Jerry Springer will have them on his show and they'll be able to afford a new double-wide.  It's hard to believe they couldn't find a real truck to move it off the road though.

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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2008, 11:56:26 PM »
You might be a redneck if you hire a farmer with 2 teat and a tractor to move your house.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 01:09:06 AM »
Well, here's something I know a bit about.

Disclaimer:  My own father** and my brother were both evicted from the same trailer park. The events were about 25 years apart though.

I just don't see how the liability can fall anywhere but on the hauler who was being paid to do the job; he claimed to have experience and insurance for it, and the "vehicle" was under his control at the time.

There's no way that dude was insured. 

When my brother was evicted* he looked into moving his trailer to another location.  He bought it for about $7,000 in 2002.  Turns out it'd cost about $3k to move the darned thing.  He had it crushed.

*: He was evicted because he moved out and told a buddy he could live there if he paid the park rent.  The guy never paid the park a dime.  Brother got a call from the park, drove to the office, paid all the bank rent and said he'd have it crushed pronto.  The clerk was amazed.  It was the only time she'd seen somebody pay back rent in such a case.

So, yeah, you're pretty much an idiot if you think a guy can move your trailer for $200. 

A stretch of bad weather could have shut that road down for at least that long.  I fail to see how that kind of destruction serves a useful purpose in the long run.

Weather clears up on its own.  Trailers don't grow legs and march. 

My Jeep's probably worth about $6-7k right now and you wouldn't have much sympathy for me if I rolled it out into the road and tore the tires off.  That's about what she did.  Oh sure, she paid Skeeter's Tractor Haulin' Service a bit to move the thing, but that obviously wasn't a prudent move.

She could try and sue the guy she hired to move it, but I'm guessing somebody that's willing to lash up a truck/tractor/whatever to a late 1960's, maybe early 1970's mobile home for $200 probably doesn't have a lot of assets.

Stupid hurts, sometime physically sometimes financially.  That's life.  Been there, done that, and I've certainly made mistakes bigger than $5k before.

**:  Dad got evicted because he and his roommate didn't keep the trailer nice enough.  They worked long hours, both being truck drivers, and given their strange hours some of the neighbors thought they were drug dealers.  He PROPERLY moved his trailer to the "lower class" trailer park of the town and that's where I spent the first 3 months of my life.  In 1980 he moved out of there and bought a house for $27,000 on, I think, 8 acres of land.  He now lives in a $500,000 home about 300 meters down the road from that house.  I have very little sympathy for the "boo-hoo, I'm poor, help me!" crowd.

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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 01:33:50 AM »
For a minute there, I thought it came off the Onion.  Almost makes me want to buy a trailer park just for the comedy.

I don't recommend it.  A buddy of mine inherited one.  There is comedy to be had, but you'll pay through the nose for it.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 10:09:15 AM »
This happened about 40 miles from me. If it cost $3,000 to move a trailer, I say she got her $200 worth.   

About the redneck, trailer trash, stuff. Yes there are a lot of moochers, whiners,and lazy worthless idiots around here. I work with some of them.

But there are also good, honest, and hard working people too. I work with some of them as well. 
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2008, 11:48:59 AM »
I don't see why they couldn't just get some more tires and put them on and continue the move ???

Yeah, old trailer tires have a habit of blowing out, especially if they have sat for years and are probably underinflated too.  Once one blows, the others at least on the same side tend to follow - pop, pop, pop, etc ...

(For better or worse, I have just a bit of self old-mobile-home moving experience.  We used to have to move ours about six miles spring and fall.  Looked kinda funny going down the road with wood smoke still coming out of the chimney  =D )
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2008, 12:11:12 PM »
When I bought my current house it was a "Fixer upper". It came with an older 2 bedroom single wide that we lived in for a year and a half while I made my house livable. I kept telling the wife it was kind of like camping out.
One day out of the blue, a few weeks after moving into the house a young newlywed couple came to the door and asked if the mobile was for sale. We settled on a price of $500 and they had to move it. (I felt kind of bad cheating them that bad but i had the impression that they thought they were cheating me)

Moving the old  junker was one of the funniest things I have ever seen two "good ole boys" showed upo with a rusty old cab-over truck, the welds for the trailer hitch were still warm.

The days activities included one small fire caused when they used starter fluid to re-inflate one of the tires, the cutting down of a medium sized oak tree that was in the way, ( it was going to go anyway to make room for my shop building) and when they got it jack knifed across the road in my neighbors driveway I thought he was going to come unglued.
We live on a rather high hill on a dead end road. They finally got it on the road headed the wrong way. No longer my problem. About anhour after they left we went to town and all the way down the hill was skid marks from the rear dual tires from the truck, we could have tracked the entire procession by the bits of pink insulation scattered along the county roads.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 02:20:43 PM »
One day not too long after we moved out here in the hills, I hear this godawful noise and look out the window to see an old truck pulling (or rather, dragging!) an old trailer down the county road.  It apparently had no tires or maybe even wheels on at least one side.  When I went to the mailbox there was a big gouge in the gravel, and bits and pieces of metal trim scattered about.  :rolleyes:

You gotta love Montana, though ;)  When we were still in town, I saw some folks moving a fairly large wooden patio deck complete with railings balanced astrided a little flatbed trailer behind a pickup. :D  That sort of thing is common and tolerated here.  In Colorado you would have been arrested so fast you wouldn't know what hit you  =(

Years ago in Kansas we bought our old 10x50 from a dealer as-is move it yourself for $700 IIRC.  I used my 2T GMC to haul it "home" using county roads parallel to the hiway with no permit.  Later we hauled it back to Colorado (with permits, this time) and over Monarch Pass.  Unbelievably, we got to within 6 miles of where we were headed before blowing both right side tires.  :O
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 02:43:12 PM »

A stretch of bad weather could have shut that road down for at least that long.  I fail to see how that kind of destruction serves a useful purpose in the long run.


Yeah.

Hell, we had stretches of I-80 closed for almost an entire day several times last year due to wildfires.

Same here in Iowa, I think I-80 was shut down for almost week last winter due to drifting of snow.
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 03:54:19 PM »
I think somebody's gettin' a brand new double-wide complete with hound dog....courtesy of the Nicholas County Sheriff's Department and a good lawyer...  =D

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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 04:12:06 PM »
I think somebody's gettin' a brand new double-wide complete with hound dog....courtesy of the Nicholas County Sheriff's Department and a good lawyer...  =D


There's the possibility they'll hire a lawyer who works for $200, too.  :lol:

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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 04:19:17 PM »
i think a bill for cleanup is more likely
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Re: Sheriff's order destroys home
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2008, 02:59:58 AM »
There's no way that dude was insured. 

Oh, I have no illusions that he would be able to pay for the trailer, just that he should be the one criminally and civilly liable for the mess left over.