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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2009, 06:51:42 AM »
California's electrical power generating problems are 100% self-inflicted. No sympathy.
Let me guess: They shut down several nuclear reactors only to "replace" them with solar panels or something that doesn't come anywhere close to the output of the reactors?
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2009, 08:43:30 AM »
. . . I'm shocked.  My old Sharp CRT uses less juice per square inch of screen, than my energy star rated LCD 46" Sharp. 
Short part of the reason: LCD TVs use a prismatic brightness enhancement film in the screen. The highest-performance BEF is patented, and relatively costly. So many TV makers have moved to cheaper BEF, with reduced performance. So they need brighter lights in back, OR the screen isn't as bright.
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2009, 08:56:35 AM »
Before you know it Californians will be under law to go lights out at 2000 hrs or be fined. Sure that sounds far fetched, but is it really?

Nah, they just do rolling blackouts.  :rolleyes: So glad I don't live in that craphole anymore.....
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2009, 09:20:42 AM »
Nah, they just do rolling blackouts.  :rolleyes: So glad I don't live in that craphole anymore.....
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2009, 09:54:10 AM »
Washington hasn't flat-out prohibited GM from making a Suburban 5500 Ultra V-12 6x6 family cab longbed model.  The market has said "hmmm... that costs a lot to drive with gas being so expensive.  Maybe I'll get something else."


Have you heard of CAFE. Average fuel mileage of all vehicles sold must be X.
So if the big 3 want to sell more large vehicles they must also sell more small vehicles even if there is not much demand.

Where is CA going to get the electricity to charge all the electric cars they are demanding?
 
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2009, 10:38:19 AM »
Have you heard of CAFE. Average fuel mileage of all vehicles sold must be X.
So if the big 3 want to sell more large vehicles they must also sell more small vehicles even if there is not much demand.

Where is CA going to get the electricity to charge all the electric cars they are demanding?

CAFE standards do not apply to vehicles over a particular GVWR.  Build it big & heavy enough and no CAFE for you!  Try to shave off some mass to increase efficiency and save the whales, you get hit with CAFE. 

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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2009, 10:38:58 AM »
CA already has a busy black market for banned high-flush toilets.

Please PM with any leads.  I plan on remodeling the master bath sometime this year.
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2009, 10:39:18 AM »
Where is CA going to get the electricity to charge all the electric cars they are demanding?
Back in the Gray Davis days, some in CA contemplated going to the Feds to force Michigan to sell electricity to Indiana . . . and Indiana's own electricity would be sold to Iowa . . . which in turn would sell their own electicity to Nevada . . . which, flush with purchased Iowa power, would then be free to sell Nevada power to California.

Idiocy like this DOES make you wonder what they're putting in the water out there . . .  ;/
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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2009, 11:32:00 AM »
Let me guess: They shut down several nuclear reactors only to "replace" them with solar panels or something that doesn't come anywhere close to the output of the reactors?

Yes. They destroyed a 900MW reactor and replaced it with 4MW of solar arrays.

The resultant shortfall required that they buy power from coalfired plants in neighboring states, which was still "green" because it wasn't their air.

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Re: California Regulates Power Usage of Big-Screen TV's?
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2009, 02:04:58 PM »
So they need brighter lights in back, OR the screen isn't as bright.

Then how did it get the energy star rating?  I can understand it using a little more juice for the more complex electronics/processor in it, but on the other hand, it has speakers about as strong as in my old tube TV,  but twice the screen real estate.