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Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« on: February 17, 2009, 09:45:03 AM »
No. No. No. No.

All I can say is I'm SO glad for Internet and satellite radio. I could not take four years of disco fever revival [insert barf smiley here]. (also I can't believe MSNBC had anything even remotely negative to say about Obama being elected)

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29002527/

Hello Obama, goodbye good music
Young, Democrat presidents usually inspire lame pop trends
COMMENTARY
By Tony Sclafani
msnbc.com contributor
updated 6:59 a.m. PT, Mon., Feb. 16, 2009

When Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th President of the United States on Jan. 20, Lady Gaga’s “Just Dance” sat atop the pop charts. The ode to escapism might not have captured the mood of the whole country (everyone didn’t vote for change, after all), but it definitely reflected the sentiments of most of the musical community.

During the past few years, countless artists have vehemently despised George Bush, while voicing support for Obama. In the U.K., the Guardian noted “You could construct a decent box-set of anti-Bush songs… covering ground from Bright Eyes to Eminem, Pink to Public Enemy, Jay-Z to Elbow.”

All of which begs the question: what’s next? If history is any indicator, expect dance music. Lots of it. Lady Gaga seems to have lobbed the first volley in what might be the biggest dance music blitz since the disco era.

It’s easy to see why. When musicians are dissatisfied with presidential administrations, they write protest songs, march on Washington and mouth off on stage. When they’re happy, they make dance music. And even if some artists don’t follow this pattern, the public’s buying patterns do. So, for the most part, that’s meant Republican administrations have inspired much of the best pop music of the past decades. Maybe they can put that in their next platform.

Dance music can be lots of fun, but the periods when it dominated the pop charts have historically been dreadful. With the economic crisis growing grimmer daily, these times cry out for thoughtful music. Pop music is usually at its best when artists challenge the status quo and another period of non-stop dance songs will definitely make the music industry even more irrelevant.

A twist of Kennedy
The pop charts of the past 50 years bear this out (and we’re talking about music known by zillions here, not under-the-radar hipster stuff). Early rock ’n’ roll made a political statement because it represented a rebellion against the repressive Eisenhower era. Few of us are old enough to remember John F. Kennedy, but the optimism brought about by his election is thought to have inspired the Twist craze. You don’t remember the Twist? OK, neither do I. But Chubby Checker’s cover version of Hank Ballard’s song got to No. 1. Twice.

Soon other artists began to twist the night away, like Sam Cooke, Joey Dee and even Bobby Darin (a Kennedy supporter). More dance crazes followed. It doesn’t take a musical scholar to deduct all of this wasn’t as “artistically significant” as what came after. When the country soured on Lyndon Johnson’s policies and social unrest was everywhere, artists like Bob Dylan stepped up with protest songs that defined an era.

Richard Nixon’s election in 1968 may have ultimately been bad for the country, but it was great for R&B. Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and Marvin Gaye all responded to the change they couldn’t believe in with hard-hitting messages. But just around the time Nixon resigned, someone decided to take the message out of dance music.

Along came disco — a music that definitely didn’t rock the boat (to paraphrase one of the genre’s first songs). It’s probably not a coincidence that disco began to dominate just after Jimmy Carter was elected. Like Kennedy, Carter was a young president supported by young voters and musicians. Again, the country wanted to shake its collective booty. Had an older president gotten the nod, a different mood might have befallen younger folks.

That’s what happened a few years later when Ronald Reagan got elected. Bruce Springsteen responded with “Nebraska” and “Born in the U.S.A.,” two albums that chronicled the plight of people who weren’t helped by Reaganomics. Punk rock also became more of a force, especially the Los Angeles hardcore scene, which often seemed driven by anti-Reagan vitriol. The same could be said about rap.

Escapism is no escape
Although people remember the 1980s for escapist MTV videos, there was more going on than new wave, hair metal and Madonna. Springsteen, of course, was arguably the biggest rock star of the decade, but the political climate also pushed John Mellencamp and Don Henley into becoming socially conscious artists. As for new artists, there were Bruce Hornsby and Tracy Chapman, who topped the charts with politically driven singles, and Suzanne Vega and 10,000 Maniacs who also scored substantial topical hits.

Grunge and alternative music hit its heyday during the early years of Bill Clinton’s administration, but it broke commercially before he was ever elected. In other words, all that youthful angst and dissatisfaction came out of the first Bush presidency (like father, like son).

When Clinton got elected, we once again got a giddy dance pop explosion, which this time took a few years but started around 1995 (remember La Bouche?) and culminated with lots of former Mousketeers becoming pop sensations. It all fit the mood of the times, but few people would call this music brilliant, much less innovative.

That brings us back to the present. As the Clash sung in one of their hardest hitting political songs, “Clampdown,” “What are we gonna do now?” As of this writing, unemployment is hitting record highs, the banking system is in a shambles, and people on both the left and right seem ready to revolt at the way Wall Street bailouts have translated into fat cat bonuses and even Super Bowl bashes.

What we need now are mainstream artists brave enough to be as outspoken as they were during the previous administration’s reign. Who’ll sing about “the countless confused, accused and misused,” like Dylan did in 1964? “Just Dance” doesn’t speak to the nation’s malaise. But something like Henley’s “The End of the Innocence” might. Or Chapman’s “Talkin’ Bout a Revolution.”
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 09:57:53 AM »
Satellite is dead to me, because XM/Sirius killed off Boneyard, Fungus, all the cool channels. The electronica channel that used to have live mixes out of Amsterdam and such now has pop R&B garbage. I am sorry. That is not dance. They tossed out the music historians who would lead you through the 20th century as part of a program, and installed some DJs who like to hear their own voice.

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 10:01:02 AM »
XM/Sirius ALMOST ended up in bankruptcy, but they just announced this morning that they got $500+ million in investment funding. Their stock price was down to 11 cents a share.
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 10:02:43 AM »
XM/Sirius ALMOST ended up in bankruptcy, but they just announced this morning that they got $500+ million in investment funding. Their stock price was down to 11 cents a share.

If Dish indeed takes over, it might be brought back to life. They seem to know what they're doing, unlike Mister...



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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 10:13:51 AM »
I disagree with the premise that Republican = soulful music and Democrat = backbeat dance crap.

Reagan, GWI, Bubba and Dubya disprove that premise.

Bubba gave us some of my favorite music.  I hate mousketeer dance crap.  I'm a musician.  I love new and innovative music.

Reagan and GWI might have given us Van Halen, Springsteen, Bon Jovi, and Def Leppard... but it also gave us rap.  For that transgression against intelligent music, I condemn their administrations to Grammy Hell.

Dubya presided over the growth of the mousketeer princess diva era of music.  I despise pop princesses so much... they don't write, they don't play an instrument, and they lip sync more often than not.  Add to that, their "voices" on record are digitally altered or hopelessly lost in a hodgepodge of background vocals.  To add insult to injury, Dubya also presided over the American Idol era.  If he had any sense of musical propriety, he would have dropped a JDAM on Fox Studios and nipped that show in the bud right-quick.

I curse all Presidents for meddling in the affairs of the music industry. =D

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 10:15:26 AM »
Well said AZ....  :laugh:
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 10:25:54 AM »
Yeah right now I'm listening to some great non-point....serious heavy metal that came from the Bush II era.....
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 10:27:40 AM »
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anti-Bush songs… covering ground from Bright Eyes

BS. Bright Eyes is a politically neutral band. I didn't need to read further.
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 10:48:41 AM »
Reagan also gave us punk rock, which still isn't dead ... regardless of how it smells. (sorry for the old joke)

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 04:56:09 PM »
Doesn't BHO have the national distributorship for c@#pola??

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 05:27:29 PM »
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Reagan also gave us punk rock

Nope.  Wrong.  Punk broke out around 1977, and if you think only of the American administration in place, that makes sense; musicians with no music skills getting through on bluster alone, as a reaction against the over-orchestrated, rotted-from-within complexity that preceded it.  Carter and The Sex Pistols.

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 07:00:53 PM »
well, then, i guess its a good thing that  i, unlike most the rest of my generation, enjoy good classics.

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 07:24:18 PM »
I hate protest songs, I hated the 70's and I hate the "00's" protest songs.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 07:28:32 PM »
I hate protest songs, I hated the 70's and I hate the "00's" protest songs.

i will agree that the modern "protest" songs are crap but most of the stuff from the 60's and 70's is darn good.
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2009, 08:23:48 PM »
In the interest of musical diversity, I will present this 1950s tune with scratchy audio.
This is from Buddy Knox. 'Hula Love.' A love song. A love song featuring a 'hero' demonstrating his love by genociding his girlfriend's hometown (likely including her dad) and making up a ditty about it. I kid you not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzHDzY7niMc

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 12:31:44 AM »
In the interest of musical diversity, I will present this 1950s tune with scratchy audio.
This is from Buddy Knox. 'Hula Love.' A love song. A love song featuring a 'hero' demonstrating his love by genociding his girlfriend's hometown (likely including her dad) and making up a ditty about it. I kid you not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzHDzY7niMc

"...genociding..."!?
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2009, 12:51:46 AM »
Eisenhower had a "repressive regime?"
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 07:49:10 AM »
"...genociding..."!?
Or ethnic cleansing, if you prefer.

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 08:56:42 AM »
"...genociding..."!?

Doncha hate it when a perfectly good noun is used as a verb? It just chaps my hide, too.

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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 06:09:55 PM »
Should Obama get a bonus point for Muzak's recent bankruptcy filing?
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Re: Hello Obama, goodbye meaningful music
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 07:06:34 PM »
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When the country soured on Lyndon Johnson’s policies and social unrest was everywhere, artists like Bob Dylan stepped up with protest songs that defined an era.

Johnson was a Democrat.  The author of that article should stick with, well, I dunno.  But he ought to spend more time reading about history and politics than dictating on it.