ICE doing their job.....and having to explain why!

[BobR]

Napolitano demands review of ICE raid at Bellingham plant

The Obama administration is demanding answers from local immigration-enforcement agents who raided an engine plant in Bellingham, arrested 28 illegal immigrant workers and began the process to deport them.

The work-site raid at Yamato Engine Specialists by agents of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on Tuesday was the first since President Obama took office. It also is believed to be the first time in this era of heightened immigration enforcement that a presidential administration has publicly demanded a review of the actions of officers in the field.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told lawmakers during a Wednesday hearing in Washington, D.C., that she did not know about the raid before it happened.

She has asked ICE for answers.

"In my view," she said, "we have to do workplace enforcement, and it needs to be focused on employers who intentionally and knowingly exploit the illegal labor market. I want to get to the bottom of this as well."

The rest of the article.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008787533_raid26m.html

It is begining to look like the illegal aliens are not the problem, but it is the  unscrupulous employers taking advantage of the poor illegal that is the problem.

This is going to be a very long 4 years.

bob

[Standing Wolf]

This is going to be a very long 4 years.

It already has been.

[Nitrogen]

Can't say that I disagree.

If employers know that they'll get raided, shut down, fined and possibly do jail time for knowingly hiring illegal workers, they won't hire illegal workers.

When Illegal Aliens can't get jobs, they'll eventually stop coming.

[Scout26]

Can't say that I disagree.

If employers know that they'll get raided, shut down, fined and possibly do jail time for knowingly hiring illegal workers, they won't hire illegal workers.

When Illegal Aliens can't get jobs, they'll eventually stop coming.

Yes, but you see we need to support those ummhmmm, undocumented workers, while we hammer those evil, merciless, slave-driving employers who shamelessly exploited these poor benighted people.

I have to go take a shower now after typing that......

[Myself]

I listened to a speech by Newt a couple of years ago.  He stated that an illegal could acquire forged documentation cheaper than real documentation.  A real tribute to capitalism.  So how is an employer supposed to know the difference?

[longeyes]

There are a lot of people skirting the law.  Illegal aliens.  Employes.  The government itself.

The general problem is disrespect for the law and representative government.

The illegal immigration movement is not just about economic issues, although those are huge; nor is it confined to job issues.  The social welfare costs are enormous; in California, for example, they are well north of $10 billion a year, probably more like $15 billion.

Then there's the touchy issue of cultural fragmentation and how that impinges on the political and social values we have taken for granted in this nation for a long time.  Our idea of a democratic republic is not one shared by many outside a specific geographic locus; it is an uncomfortable truth but one we need to think hard about regardless of the fact that it's politically incorrect.

[AZRedhawk44]

So how is an employer supposed to know the difference?

E-verify.

Applicant gives you their documents.

You type in data to e-verify web page.  E-verify says whether it matches or not.  If "yes," then hooray.  Hire.

If "no," then the applicant can be hired on (i think) 60 day contingency while appealing the e-verify decision.

Pretty cut-and-dry, IMO.

[freedom lover]

Can't say that I disagree.

If employers know that they'll get raided, shut down, fined and possibly do jail time for knowingly hiring illegal workers, they won't hire illegal workers.

When Illegal Aliens can't get jobs, they'll eventually stop coming.

Not if the less industrious ones can somehow get on welfare. I don't see the current administration doing anything to exclude more people. If anything they want more leaches on welfare so more people will vote for them.

[Scout26]

E-verify.

Applicant gives you their documents.

You type in data to e-verify web page.  E-verify says whether it matches or not.  If "yes," then hooray.  Hire.

If "no," then the applicant can be hired on (i think) 60 day contingency while appealing the e-verify decision.

Pretty cut-and-dry, IMO.

IIRC, wasn't this defunded/eliminated/killed/destroyed in the Porkulus bill ??

So now we're back to putting the employers in the "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" position.  You check the documents but if later proven to be false, the employer gets hammered.  You also stand for/help/encourage the illegal alien problem so that you can get more voters.....BRILLIANT !!

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Not if the less industrious ones can somehow get on welfare.


take a moment and google welfare illegal aliens and get back to us.try not to get stuck on sturmfront its got a special appeal to the young  try the more info oriented sites

[HankB]

. . . You check the documents but if later proven to be false, the employer gets hammered. 

And if you do some additional checking, you're engaged in racial profiling . . . I'm sure there's a bureaucrat somewhere who can come up with a reason to fine you.

And it will be no excuse if it turns out the job candidate was an illegal alien.