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new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« on: April 08, 2009, 09:15:14 PM »
God, the aussie newspapers are so dang politically correct!

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But the objectives of MBM - its emblem features two crossed pistols and a hand grenade - and its leadership remain unclear to officers of both the Organised Crime and Gang Squad and Middle Eastern Organised Crime
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Police say that a fortnight ago MBM members embarked upon a campaign of random assaults on men who crossed the path of a mob of about 100 toughs stalking Darlinghurst and Kings Cross during the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras.

I would say its clear, they hate gays and hate australia and thrive on crime/intimidation.

To me it reads like ( article ) "why are not they  embracing us and singing kumbaya"?

they're criminals, probably outsiders to aussie culture and their own culture.


http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-rise-and-rise-of-new-gangs-20090328-9eri.html
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 09:39:27 PM »
Mel Gibson will straighten it all out.
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 10:03:55 PM »
Mel Gibson will straighten it all out.

Don't you mean Max?
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 10:10:50 PM »
i would dearly love to see a muslim club try to break bad in the usa. there would be carnage amongst the other clubs to see who got to take em out
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 03:10:33 AM »
CSD, you ain't lying!

I can just see an Islamic MC, and how long it would last: you'd likely see compitition among the current MCs, to see which group could rack up the highest body count...
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 03:40:59 AM »
God, the aussie newspapers are so dang politically correct!



I would say its clear, they hate gays and hate australia and thrive on crime/intimidation.

To me it reads like ( article ) "why are not they  embracing us and singing kumbaya"?

they're criminals, probably outsiders to aussie culture and their own culture.


http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-rise-and-rise-of-new-gangs-20090328-9eri.html

hmm interesting, I googled key words like "Muslim Brotherhood Movement"
there is a lot more to it than I originally suspected, I bet they are in the USA too, just lower profile.
I've often wondered when they would go after gays in the USA, I know Islamonazis kill gays in the middle east. I guess they don't want the bad press they would get if they tried it here.
If the headline had been "gangs attack gays in Australia" it would have been all over the news.
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 04:39:19 AM »
Yeah, well, being here right now and in the midst of the "bikie gang war" frenzy, I think I might have a few insights...

1. The MBM is not a bikie gang.

2. Many of the bikie gangs are mixed race - ie, white Australians, lebanese, greeks, etc.  They are decidedly not religious.

3. There are ethnic and race based gangs here just like in the US - Asian, Lebanese, Greek, and Italian. 

4.  The Lebanese gangs have leaders "turn religious" and quit the life all the time - they consider participating in the gang to be anti-religious, and going Muslim is their formal way of getting out of the gang, not into it.

Muslim is a religion folks, not a race.  It's not a "muslim bikie gang" just because some Lebanese dudes are members.

And read on about what they plan to do in response....some states here have already banned motorcycle clubs and made it a crime for members to talk to each other. 
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 09:47:06 AM »
....some states here have already banned motorcycle clubs and made it a crime for members to talk to each other. 

Do you mean disbanded?

made it a crime for members to talk to each other?

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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 12:11:01 PM »
Muslim biker gang?.....what do they ride?.....H-allah-ly Davidsons?....  :lol:
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 12:34:46 PM »
Muslim biker gang?.....what do they ride?.....H-allah-ly Davidsons?....  :lol:

Well, the irony of a bunch of them riding hogs would not be lost on me.
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 12:39:17 PM »
There's be a certain irony to them riding Triumphs, too...

And I don't know about talking to each-other, but I do know that it's illegal to wear colors in Oz...
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 12:47:20 PM »
Well, the irony of a bunch of them riding hogs would not be lost on me.

....with a burkah on back, no less....  =D
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2009, 02:26:10 PM »
thanks shootingstudent, interesting insight.

 Now for a new take on an old biker t shirt, the old tshirt read "if you can read this the b%#ch fell off!"
the new sharia one reads "if you can read this, I pushed her off & cut off her hands, it is the will of Allah"
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 03:06:19 PM »
Is it bad that the above made me giggle?
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2009, 03:09:43 PM »
Is it bad that the above made me giggle?
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 03:18:27 PM »
Yes. Report to Hell for eternal punishment.
Guess I got to go too. See you in Hell Strings! Have a nice day!  =D
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2009, 04:58:33 PM »
I'll bring the marshmallows...
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2009, 05:02:43 PM »
get a seat on the cool side near a window
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 05:14:25 PM »
I'll bring the marshmallows...

The only ones allowed down there are the ones that are surströmming flavoured. Still want to bring them? You HAVE to eat what you bring. And they'll never run out.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2009, 07:55:11 PM »
The only ones allowed down there are the ones that are surströmming flavoured. Still want to bring them? You HAVE to eat what you bring. And they'll never run out.
You know, I didn't really have to look to see that it was rotten fish, I just considered the source!  :laugh:
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 08:17:14 PM »
Hey... if there are enough of us down there, think we could organize a union?
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2009, 03:08:24 AM »
Actually, I would expect this to be a self-limiting problem, as one by one their shimaghs get caught in the spokes at 70 mph...
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2009, 07:55:08 AM »
Yeah, well, being here right now and in the midst of the "bikie gang war" frenzy, I think I might have a few insights...

1. The MBM is not a bikie gang.

2. Many of the bikie gangs are mixed race - ie, white Australians, lebanese, greeks, etc.  They are decidedly not religious.

3. There are ethnic and race based gangs here just like in the US - Asian, Lebanese, Greek, and Italian. 

4.  The Lebanese gangs have leaders "turn religious" and quit the life all the time - they consider participating in the gang to be anti-religious, and going Muslim is their formal way of getting out of the gang, not into it.

Muslim is a religion folks, not a race.  It's not a "muslim bikie gang" just because some Lebanese dudes are members.

And read on about what they plan to do in response....some states here have already banned motorcycle clubs and made it a crime for members to talk to each other. 
:rolleyes:


They call themselves the Muslim Brotherhood. 
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Re: new ( Muslim ) biker gangs emerge in OZ
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 09:08:35 AM »
The "they" in this case is misleading - there is a very large international organization by the name of Al Ikhwan Al Muslimeen (which means "the Brotherhood of the Muslims")...that is what is mostly meant in references to "the Muslim Brotherhood."  The MBM isn't affiliated.

It's not clear in Auburn (a Sydney area neighborhood with excellent food) whether the MBM was actually a group, or a a slogan on a banner carried/chanted by an existing gang.  But it any case, it is not a biker gang (or even known to be involved in racketeering.) 

Some more context:  King's Cross, where all these attacks occurred, is a major center for drug trafficking and seedy business.  Not surprising that a gang is going around intimidating people there; that's where the money comes from. 

There is mass hysteria here right now surrounding gangs, following a biker brawl that ended in death at the Sydney airport.  There's a gang war going on that involves all races and modes of transport, and that, again, has nothing to do with religion.

It's important to note when reading these articles about the various gangs that the Police and Government giving the information are enacting laws that allow them to declare any group or organization illegal, which then makes it a crime for members to talk to each other in any capacity. 



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