Author Topic: Watching the Antique Road show...  (Read 1011 times)

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Watching the Antique Road show...
« on: May 03, 2009, 07:42:00 PM »
They just finished showing a winchester model 1892, made in 1913 with a 14 inch barrel.

They've repeated MULTIPLE times that it's illegal due to the short barrel, but the ATF was 'kind enough' to declare it a curio&relic.

At worst, wouldn't he need to pay the $5 tax stamp on it?

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Re: Watching the Antique Road show...
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 01:15:31 PM »
Just because it is a C&R, does not relieve you of the need to get a stamp for that short barreled rifle.  C&R covers most anything over 50 years old.  I would not be surprised if the ATF came knocking at the owner's door this week.....chris3

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Re: Watching the Antique Road show...
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 01:23:36 PM »
Just because it is a C&R, does not relieve you of the need to get a stamp for that short barreled rifle.  C&R covers most anything over 50 years old.  I would not be surprised if the ATF came knocking at the owner's door this week.....chris3

No, some C&R stuff is exempt from from NFA tax and registration. For instance, Mauser Broomhandles, and Browning Hi-Powers that have the original stock-mounting hardware and a holster/stock can have them and mount them without registering and paying the NFA tax. There are also several Winchester carbines on the list as well. So the NFA adding this one to the C&R exceptions list is not that unusual. It's more a matter that they were quick and helpful about it.

There's a reasonably lengthy list of exceptions on the C&R list. I recieved it with my C&R 03 FFL paperwork and law books. However, they're all things that would classify as SBR's, SBS's, or AOW's etc.

Machine Guns that are C&R can be transfered directly between C&R License holders, or directly from a NFA dealer, but you must still register it on a form 4 and pay the $200 NFA tax.

« Last Edit: May 04, 2009, 01:40:23 PM by AJ Dual »
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Re: Watching the Antique Road show...
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 01:56:10 PM »
No tax stamp needed, the same goes for my 1918 DWM Luger w/shoulder stock lug on the grip frame.

Coppertales is dead wrong, ATF has long since ruled that those short-barreled antique Winchester leverguns are ok. 

The Winchester Model 1892 is indeed exempt from NFA due to its C&R collectibility status.

See here:

http://www.shelfspace.com/~c-r-ffl/sec3.html

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« Last Edit: May 04, 2009, 02:08:57 PM by Gewehr98 »
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Re: Watching the Antique Road show...
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 02:43:38 PM »
A 14" lever gun carbine would be handy as a front shirt pocket.
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