Replacing Door Glass in Wooden Frames

[roo_ster]

Howdy:

I have the "opportunity" to replace the glass in a door and a nearby window frame.  Both have 5 panes in wooden frames part of the door wall/door* This is late 1950's construction, wood, and the glass is non-tempered, non-safety, "break into large Hollywood-like pointy shards" glass.

I replaced two of the panes in the past by ripping out the wooden bits securing them and tacking in new wooden bits.  This left me a bit cold, as the new panes had to be a smidgen smaller to fit the opening.  I could sort of move them in the vertical plane, despite the new wooden its holding them in place and pushed up hard against the pane.

I was wondering if there is some sort of removable (years down the road) stuff I could use to help seal & secure the new window panes?  I suspect Gorilla glue is NOT the right answer.

I'll go to a local guy for the glass and replace it with locally-made safety glass.  Not tempered, but glass/film/glass that works like windshield glass.



* Was originally another door when the house was a model, but sealed closed.

[41magsnub]

Fill in around the outside of the glass panes with some good silicon caulking before putting the wood strip back on?  You should be able to get it air tight if you do it right.

When I've done this in the past there was no wooden strip, just glass tacks and glazing compound.  Some easy chisel work takes the glazing compound right out if needed.

Edit:  By glass tacks I mean glazing points...

[Balog]

Replace it with an all wood or metal door.

[Hawkmoon]

The stuff that's made for the job is called "glazing compound." It's a form of putty. Any hardware store should have it.

If the wood around where the glass seats isn't painted -- paint it, with at least two coats of oil-based primer. Otherwise, the wood will suck all the oil out of the glazing compound and it'll be useless.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

glaze-ease
www.advancedrepair.com/glazing/glazing.htm

no priming comes out easy and soft  can be painted same day but doesn't have to be  and wonder of wonders is approved by the preservationists for historic homes. very nice to work with

[roo_ster]

glaze-ease
www.advancedrepair.com/glazing/glazing.htm

no priming comes out easy and soft  can be painted same day but doesn't have to be  and wonder of wonders is approved by the preservationists for historic homes. very nice to work with

Just the functionality I was hunting!  It even performs as backbedding, something I understood I needed, but did not yet know the proper term to describe.

Plus, they have a video demonstrating its use.

Thanks.

[K Frame]

DAP 33 is what I use because it's very easy to come by.

Couple of years ago I rebuild the front door on my Mother's 1903 Victorian.

Several of the joints had opened up and all of the original linseed putty used to bed the glass had dried out and fallen away, leaving the door draging and the glass rattling.

I reglued the door then bedded the rather large piece of window glass in DAP 33. Then, because her dogs jumped on the door at the window, I covered the window opening with a sheet of plexiglass. That provided additional draft protection (the glazing compound omitted a HUGE amount of air) and it kept the dogs from jumping up and possibly breaking the window, but definitely kept them from grabbing the wood with their toenails and ripping it to shreds.

The amount of noise reduction from bedding the glass is also pretty startling.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

before glaze ease a 6 over 6 total reglaze wwas a one window a day deal.  and then you have to let glazing cure 10 plus days before you can paint over it.  and you have to paint over it. my best day with glaze ease and this lil pratzi widget for removing glazing is 5 windows in one long day  and that includes painting

http://www.amazon.com/Prazi-USA-PR9000-Putty-Chaser/dp/B0000224S8

be careful about the points that hold in the glass  this tool can jump if you hit one  might break glass   or so i hear

[Leatherneck]

I had a summer job once, long ago and in a different life: re-glaze 36  six-over-six double-hung windows in the church's Grange Hall--a two-story Victorian monster. I still shudder.

TC

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i gave an estimate of 28 k on a historic property to reglaze and paint 24 big windows  and was the low bidder by far.

[Hawkmoon]

They sell Dremel cutters for removing old, hardened glazing putty.

I would not want to be nearby when a cutter at 20,000 RPM grabs one of those triangular glazing points ...

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

the lil widget i use i use on a drill so i can vary speed