Police: Four boys sexually assaulted 8-year-old girl

[Berettababe]

(CNN) –– Four boys ages 9 to 14 have been charged with sexually assaulting an 8-year old girl, police in Phoenix, Arizona, said Wednesday.

The girl was lured into a vacant storage shed by the suspects, who offered her chewing gum, police said at a news conference.

The girl and the boys charged are all from families that have come to the United States from the West African nation of Liberia, police said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/22/arizona.juvenile.sexual.assault/index.html

Words fail me. 

I don't understand why people who aren't civilized and aren't capable of living in our society are brought here in the first place. I can trace my ancestry directly back to slaves. I don't feel any kinship with these people. The strange thing is that primarily White churches bring african immigrants here en mase for reaons that are beyond me.

Now I've known quite a few immigrants from west and south africa, and although some of them are disciplined and studious, they don't really share anything with Blacks who have been here for generations. I personally believe that affirmative action and other racial 'equalizers' are reprehensible manifestations of White guilt, but at the same time, those who take advantage of such options are descended from one of the greatest inhuman acts that our nation ever perpetrated. Johnny-come-lately immigrants are also given advantages by quotas, etc, and I find this very unfair as their forefathers didn't pay for it in blood and death.


Most Blacks share my opinion when it comes to african immigrants although most of us aren't willing to voice it out of a sense of misguided unity.

[Jocassee]

My ideal punishment for this sort of thing involves spread legs, and a couple of bricks. Use your imagination.

Use your imagination.

[AZRedhawk44]

Same thing, but with pulled pork applied and a starving wolverine brought into the room.


Yuck.

[HankB]

The strange thing is that primarily White churches bring african immigrants here en mase for reaons that are beyond me.

The #1 reason is that they can pretend to be "doing good" while they know - know! - that they will NOT be held responsible for the actions or the support of those they sponsor. 

[Viking]

All cultures are not equal, and those who claim otherwise are deluded fools. I don't want to have any part of the present culture of say South Africa, where IIRC 30% of all women will be raped atleast once in their lives. Nor do I want to share country with Liberian war criminals, who figured that rape, murder and mutilations were just too vanilla, and subsequently brought back cannibalism as a method of waging war. Nor do I want anything to do with cultures who figures that female genital mutilations is just fine and dandy. Nor do I want people who believe that it is a rational idea to kill albinos to harvest their body parts for various "medicines".

As for these, just terminate them before they become really dangerous. 9MM to the back of the head, quick and painless.

[mellestad]

This is nuts.  I am more concerned with getting the kids all mental evaluations and calling the Child Protective Service for possible removal though.

Do you know any 9 year old kids?  Can you imagine them doing something like this?

The actions of a kid that old are still firmly their parents responsibility, I would say reserve punishment for them.  The kids might still be salvageable.

[Bigjake]

Can you imagine being that little girls dad? 

A fate worse than death awaits any adult that would even TRY that on any female friends or relatives of mine, but what do you do to those feral little shits?

[S. Williamson]

[zahc]

Nor do I want anything to do with cultures who figures that female genital mutilations is just fine and dandy.

Our culture figures that male genital mutilation is just fine and dandy. Why is that better?

It stands to no reason that the continued, systematic practice of male genital cutting performed on the majority of male babies in this country is completely overlooked as an obvious and egregious human rights violation. Cultural relativism at its finest.

[Perd Hapley]

I think my brain just vomited after reading zahc's post. 

[Racehorse]

I think my brain just vomited after reading zahc's post. 

Please don't make light of this. I've been in therapy for years trying to overcome the damage done to me by my unthinking parents. My circumcision genital mutilation has had a devastating impact on my physical, emotional, and mental health. It's a real issue with a very real impact on very real people.

[Ron]

Our culture figures that male genital mutilation is just fine and dandy. Why is that better?

It stands to no reason that the continued, systematic practice of male genital cutting performed on the majority of male babies in this country is completely overlooked as an obvious and egregious human rights violation. Cultural relativism at its finest.

You diminish the seriousness of female genital mutilation by comparing it to circumcision.

If we were castrating babies instead you would have an argument.

[zahc]

You diminish the seriousness of female genital mutilation by comparing it to circumcision.

Why is it more serious, because it's not practiced here, and therefore "weirder"?

Comparison with castration is not at all apt. Female genital mutilation generally leaves the women capable of reproduction in some hobbled, saddened state I assume. Not at all like castration, but quite comparable to male genital cutting as practiced in the US.

I do believe that it should be quite obvious that infant genital cutting in any form is a serious human rights violation. I further believe that if justice were to be served that anyone performing it should be jailed for child abuse no different than if they lopped off their child's ears or nose. The fact that it's widespread does not make it better, it makes it worse.

I didn't mean to start a medical comparison of which kinds of systematic genital mutilation are worse...a discussion that strikes me as being about as worthwhile as discussing which sex positions are worse to use during rape. I was mostly pointing out that the practice of female genital cutting is a poor thing to bring up if by "cultures are not all equal" you mean "there is an objective standard of morality". It only makes any sense if you mean "all cultures are not equal because my culture is the best".

[vaskidmark]

Back to the original topic.

This is nuts.  I am more concerned with getting the kids all mental evaluations and calling the Child Protective Service for possible removal though.

Do you know any 9 year old kids?  Can you imagine them doing something like this?

The actions of a kid that old are still firmly their parents responsibility, I would say reserve punishment for them.  The kids might still be salvageable.

Please remove the rose-colored glasses, take off the earphones blaring Kumbya, look for some coffee to smell, and grab your ears to perform a self-induced cure of rectocranial inversion.

The behaviors of these fine young men are the result of cultural indoctrination going back for many, many generations.  The willingness of the 8-year old girl to go with them is also the result of cultural indoctrination.

The only things salvagable from these children might be (after rigorous medical testing to confirm the absence of disease) organs for tranplanting.  And that is an unlikely outcome, given the many generations of cultural indoctrination we Americans have undergone.

Unfortunately it is unlikely that the juvenile correctional system will incarcerate these youths until the day of their 21st birthday - not as rehabilitation, nor as retribution, but merely to provide incapacitation of their behavior for the longest period possible.

stay safe.

skidmark

[Ron]

zahc,

Your post shows that you have no knowledge of that which you are pontificating on.

Castration may not have been the best word to use. If we were removing the penis of baby boys your comparison would be apropos.

[mtnbkr]

There are medical reasons to perform circumcisions beyond the original religious reasons.  First, there is evidence circumcision reduces the transmission of HIV.  Second, it reduces opportunities for infection. 

As a circumcised male, I have managed to rise above the cruelty and stupidity of my parents to become a (mostly) productive citizen and father.  The only manner in which my handicap is manifested is through my willingness to allow Mike Irwin into my home.

Chris

[K Frame]

OK, folks, I've said it before, I will say it again.

If ALL you have to contribute is moralistic angst wrapped around your thoughts on how to best "punish" someone, keep it to yourself.

Thread's done, and if a couple of you don't get the message, so are you.