Author Topic: Sit-down restaurant carry out question (Read 3176 times)

BridgeRunner · « **on:** October 22, 2009, 06:17:41 PM »

Ok, so, very quick question.

When one gets "carside to go" food, as in food from a regular restaurant that they bring out the car, is one expected to pay a tip?

I don't want to stiff anyone, but part of the reason we're doing it is to save money over eating there.

Scout26 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:19:27 PM »

Tipping is not only for the wait staff but also for the cook/chef/kitchen folks also.

Fjolnirsson · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:22:23 PM »

I consider it like a drive through. It confused me the first time I ran into it, though. Same with Carl's Jr, where they bring your food to the table. I reasoned it out that, they aren't actually improving my dining experience in any way, as a normal waitress has the potential to do(if she is any good), she's just handing me the food. Her employer chose to make that via a walk out, rather than a drive through. Just like if my order is holding up a line, and the drive through sends me to park elsewhere. I don't tip that person.

Mike · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:35:57 PM »

If I pick up a pizza to go I don't tip. Same thing. Eat in = tip. Carry out = no tip.

lupinus · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:51:52 PM »

In general counter service=no tip, sit down service=tip.

Kyle · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:01:31 PM »

To add:

If you sit down at a restaurant and eat a meal, and then order another meal or item to go, you tip on the to-go food as well.

lupinus · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:29:54 PM »

as the to go order is brought to your table just as your other food, I would agree with the above.

Little less tip perhaps, but added to the tip total.

Physics · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:35:38 PM »

If it is a restaurant, tip them. The waitress/waiter has to pay taxes on the amount of sales they make. Thus, if you don't tip them, they take a hit. However, I don't think a fast food employee pays any taxes on their sales, so I would not tip.

ETA: this is in Oregon. I don't know how it works in other states.

Balog · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2009, 11:18:13 AM »

Quote from: Physics on October 22, 2009, 10:35:38 PM

If it is a restaurant, tip them. The waitress/waiter has to pay taxes on the amount of sales they make. Thus, if you don't tip them, they take a hit. However, I don't think a fast food employee pays any taxes on their sales, so I would not tip.

ETA: this is in Oregon. I don't know how it works in other states.

Seriously? I've never heard of anything like that. Sounds pretty retarded.

Leatherneck · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:07:17 PM »

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The waitress/waiter has to pay taxes on the amount of sales they make.

What on earth is THAT all about? Are you serious?

TC

vaskidmark · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:15:33 PM »

Quote from: Leatherneck on October 23, 2009, 01:07:17 PM

What on earth is THAT all about? Are you serious?

TC

Yes, the IRS presumes that they make a consistent percentage in tips, which is also how/why employers pay less than minimum wage.

Tipping is just passing the cost of wages on to the consumer directly, instead of hiding it in the cost of goods/services. Be glad you are not also being expected to pay FICA, Workers Comp and other taxes as well.

stay safe.

skidmark

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:32:04 PM »

The catch is that in order to legally pay the server at the lower rate of pay the employer has to make up any difference between tips and pay received and the normal minimum wage.

Also forcing the employee to share tips with others who are not normally tipped, such as chefs and other kitchen staff, is not legal.

While on one hand the system can result in the employee making well more than minimum wage on a good day or week, on the other hand it's an easily abused system.

Personally I'd rather they just payed them minimum wage and included the difference in the cost of food.

Physics · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:36:33 PM »

IIRC, they pay 7% of their sales in taxes. Which explains why I didn't get tips very often as the cook. In Oregon, they at least make minimum wage, which is around $8.50 an hour if I'm not mistaken.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:39:04 PM »

If I sit down in the resturant for an hour, eat a meal, I'm taking up that server's time. Tip.
Carry out? What, did it take 2 or 3 minutes to bring me my food and run my credit card, if I didn't prepay over the phone already? I might throw 'em a buck or two if they are cute and brought it to me with a smile....

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:46:24 PM »

When I tended bar we had to claim 8% in tips based on the amount we rang up. Never had to worry that my 8% claim was more than what was in the tip jar at the end of the night.

Firethorn · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:48:56 PM »

Quote from: Physics on October 23, 2009, 02:36:33 PM

IIRC correctly, they pay 7% of their sales in taxes. Which explains why I didn't get tips very often as the cook. In Oregon, they at least make minimum wage, which is around $8.50 an hour if I'm not mistaken.

It's not 7% of sales in taxes, it's that they have to assume that they get 7% of their sales in the form of tips and have to declare that as income.

jackdanson · « **Reply #16 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:07:23 PM »

I tip a dollar per "meal" in those cases. A waitress still has to take time out of her schedule to get the food together and bring it out. You should give them a little something, though obviously I wouldn't give them the same amount as if I was eating in restraunt.

Lee · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2009, 01:20:38 PM »

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The waitress/waiter has to pay taxes on the amount of sales they make.

You can give credit for that to Ronald Reagan...who decided that servers were getting away with far too many illegal tax breaks. Had to pay for Star Wars ( or whatever it was called) somehow I guess.

doczinn · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2009, 07:12:41 PM »

And Ronald Reagan was governor of Oregon when, again?

geronimotwo · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2009, 10:19:25 AM »

the taxing of "off book" gratuities is intentional double taxing. the person giving the tip doesn't have the option of taking a tax write-off unless it's for business and they're given a receipt.

as far as the op, i used to joke with the delivery guys about how far they carry the food versus a standard person waiting tables(typically for much less money).

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Author Topic: Sit-down restaurant carry out question (Read 3176 times)