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Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« on: October 28, 2009, 04:39:10 PM »
You won't see Larry David pissing on an image of Mohammed or anything Muslims might hold dear because he fears he might provoke violence against his person.

I think that we Christians might ought to learn the lesson Mr. David and others like him have repeatedly tried to teach us: the only way to get respect from the bicoastal, lefty, athiest scum is for them to fear us.



http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2009/10/28/would-he-piss-on-an-image-of-obama/

Would he piss on an image of Obama?
Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 2:06 PM
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Larry David found comedy fodder in piety on the latest episode of his series, “Curb Your Enthusiasm.’

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    On the show’s most recent installment, which aired Sunday, David urinates on a painting of Jesus Christ, causing a woman to believe the painting depicts Jesus crying.
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    During Sunday’s episode, David, who created, wrote and produced “Seinfeld,” visits a bathroom in his assistant’s home and splatters urine on a picture of Jesus. Instead of wiping it off, David leaves the restroom. Minutes later, David’s assistant enters the bathroom and concludes that Jesus is crying. She then summons her mother to the bathroom, where both women kneel in prayer.

I’ve never seen this show, does anyone know if the assistant is recognizably ethnic? Is this “brave” comedian also taking a swipe at Hispanic piety? I’m just asking.

Look, there is aways some satirical fun to be had at the expense of those people who find images of religious figures in piece of toast, and in tree stumps and oil stains, but there is also a line. An image of Christ is merely an image, true, but it is an image that is sacred to over a billion people on the planet. Deal Hudson, in the linked article says:

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    “Why is it that people are allowed to publicly show that level of disrespect for Christian symbols? If the same thing was done to a symbol of any other religions — Jewish or Muslim — there’d be a huge outcry. It’s simply not a level playing field.”

Forget Jewish, forget Muslim. If, let’s say, Kelsey Grammer had done precisely the same thing on his show, but using an image of, oh, let’s just say ferinstance, Barack Obama, do you think he’d still have a career?

Frankly, the idea of an image of a pissed-on Obama “weeping,” and some of his fans falling to their knees over it would have a lot of satirical value; it would offer commentary both on the excesses of religious and political worship, and offend fewer people than David’s cowardly joke.

It takes no courage for an rich, unbelieving “artist” to piss on Christ. After all, that’s been done before. And Jesus voluntarily submitted himself to much worse, which means nothing an “artist” does to any image of Christ can do anything but reflect on the spiritual poverty of the “artist,” himself. For an “artist” to use Jesus for a cheap joke is about as “courageous” and “bold” as making a joke about George W. Bush before an audience of like-thinkers; it takes no courage at all.

But for an “artist” to make an identical satirical “joke” on Obama and his adorers? That would take great courage. That would be bold, and daring. And it would speak reassuring volumes about free speech in America.

I would not want to see it. I would not want to see the image of any American President so ill-used; he’s my president, too.

But if Larry David could see the humor in pissing on Christ and the excesses of Catholic piety, surely he must see the humor in pissing on Obama, and the excesses of Obama worship?

Haha. It’s all so funny, isn’t it? Are you laughing? Are you not entertained?
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 04:48:04 PM »
Watch the south park "cartoon wars" series.  They were really poking fun at the fact that comedy central would not allow them to show an image of muhammad.  I listened to the "director commentary" and the creators found it odd that the higher ups wouldn't allow them to show muhammad in a non-offensive manner, but they did allow them to show Jesus and George Bush pooing on eachother.

I don't have a problem with comedians being edgy, it's when it only goes one way that it bothers me.

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I would not want to see it. I would not want to see the image of any American President so ill-used; he’s my president, too.

I wouldn't care, satire is satire.

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 04:48:27 PM »
Keeping an eye on this thread.  If anyone spirals out of control I will get all Mike Irwin all up in here.  
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 05:06:54 PM »
Keeping an eye on this thread.  If anyone spirals out of control I will get all Mike Irwin all up in here.  

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 05:14:41 PM »
The creator gave all of us free will. What we decide to do with that gift is up to us.

Personally, I don't reserve any reverence for idols.
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 05:18:42 PM »


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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 06:03:34 PM »
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If anyone spirals out of control I will get all Mike Irwin all up in here. 

Oh, please don't do that. Then I'd have to go all Fistful on everybody, and we don't want that. ;)

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 06:08:45 PM »
Keeping an eye on this thread.  If anyone spirals out of control I will get all Mike Irwin all up in here.  

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 06:31:23 PM »
I will get all Mike Irwin all up in here.  


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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 06:44:21 PM »
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I think that we Christians might ought to learn the lesson Mr. David and others like him have repeatedly tried to teach us: the only way to get respect from the bicoastal, lefty, athiest scum is for them to fear us.

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 06:47:18 PM »
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I think that we Christians might ought to learn the lesson Mr. David and others like him have repeatedly tried to teach us: the only way to get respect from the bicoastal, lefty, athiest scum is for them to fear us.

How do you plan to accomplish this?

There's already been a religious faction that shelled my neighborhood and attacked the country I live in. I am not afraid of them.
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 06:54:21 PM »

I think that we Christians might ought to learn the lesson Mr. David and others like him have repeatedly tried to teach us: the only way to get respect from the bicoastal, lefty, atheist scum is for them to fear us.



I just now actually comprehended what you posted.  I was in a hurry and just bumped through it earlier.....
  You realize there are several atheist members on this board?  
Can we call you Christian scum?

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 07:49:56 PM »
He didn't say atheists are scum, he specified that he was talking about bicoastal, lefty, atheist scum.  How is this a problem? 
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 07:52:47 PM »
Not all atheists are lefties, and not all lefties are atheists. 
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 08:01:17 PM »
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...the only way to get respect from the bicoastal, lefty, athiest scum is for them to fear us.

This lifelong atheist is one of us, thanks all the same, and the word is "atheist," not "athiest." Y'all need to learn how to spell before y'all start slingin' words round on the internet.
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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 08:20:38 PM »
Not all atheists are lefties, and not all lefties are atheists.  

That's probably why he directed his remarks specifically at bicoastal lefty atheist scum, rather than all athiests generally.

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Re: Would he piss on an image of Obama?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 08:53:25 PM »
Sorry, but this looks to be fast on it's way downhill. Closed.
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