St. Louis is the new Chicago.

[Perd Hapley]

Remember the black man who was beat down by union thugs at a town hall meeting last August?  Looks like they're only getting charged with misdemeanor ordinance violations.   


http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/11/breaking-charges-filed-in-ken-gladney-case/

[vaskidmark]

Seriously, what felony was committed?

I do not know the details of the law there, but from what I read Gladney was "roughed up" without any blood being drawn.  Maybe some clothing ripped, but that seems vague in the recesses of my mind.

Where I hang my hat it requires the drawing of blood or the serious damaging of bones/ disabling to move A&B up from misdemeanor to felony level.

If it were possible to get a "hate crime" charge there might be a felony involved, but I hear that one black person referring to another black person as a N-word is not race-based hatred but fraternal affection.  Now if one of the thugs had been white and used the N-word ....

Anybody want to take the time & effort to see if there is a disconnect between the law as written and the charges filed?

stay safe.

skidmark

[Jamisjockey]

Anyone laying their hands on another should be charged with a felony.  "Roughing someone up" can easily result in an unplanned death.

[vaskidmark]

So how about we just do away with the whole misdemeanor category altogether?

The  folks have said for years that the gooberment wants to make criminals of us all.  Seems you are in favor of heading more in that direction.

Or do we look at both the law and what actually happened, instead of throwing out statements about how we wish these thugs get heavily penalized because their acts were probably politically motivated and worse yet, motivated by a party and platform we do not agree with.

As one of the Jewish folks here, I'm starting to get a really creepy feeling of deja vu all over again.  Not because I think you will be coming after the Jews first this time.  But sooner or later it seems someone does come after the Jews, and I'm so non-religious that it makes the assimilated Jews of Weimar Germany look like Hasids.

This is not Godwining anything.  It is my intent to use hyperbole to point out that some are straying away from the law in order to achieve some socio-political goal related to the difference between misdemeanor and felony assault being too lax for their tastes.

stay safe.

skidmark

[SADShooter]

skidmark:

Legal nuance in this case is debatable.Bbut when public physical abuse, however severe, for expressing a political view gets shrugged off as a procedural violation, that seems more like post-Weimar Germany to me, and far more dangerous.

SADShooter

[vaskidmark]

Nobody said a misdemeanor criminal charge of A&B was a procedural violation.  My objection is that until/unless the law is changed the difference between misdemeanor & felony level A&B needs to be respected.  We should not be upping the ante because the "roughing up" was over politics.

And yes, I understand your reference to the Brown Shirts.  I'm worried either/both ways.  But I'm more concerned when someone suggests we make a felony out of a misdemeanor.

stay safe.

skidmark

[SADShooter]

Fair enough. The question outstanding seems to be, were the charges brought applicable to the circumstances, or modified out of some motive by the authorities? If it's agreed the facts support the charges, you express a legitimate concern. To many, including me, the handling of this situation looks like a whitewash.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Yup, they're just trying to make it go away quickly and quietly.

What do you suppose the charge would be if the roles had been reversed and it had been a white Republican who "roughed up" a black liberal at a political event?