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non negative political story
« on: November 17, 2009, 02:40:18 AM »
from one county south
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2009/112009/11162009/503923/index_html?page=1


his comment about his salary and negotiating was great
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 11:51:50 AM »
You sure this is in the right forum?   =)
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 08:16:16 PM »
So, to set a positive example for other county employees, he's decided he doesn't need a raise from his current $150,000 salary (plus the $500 a month vehicle allowance)?

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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 08:30:53 PM »
you think 150 k is too much for running an organization that size?   28 schools 24000 kids  all the infrastructure etc?
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 08:47:42 PM »
Is he worth $150k?  I dunno.  Don't really care, either. 

That salary places him in the 95th percentile of wage earners, and we're told he's being "generous" and "setting an example" by not asking for a raise?

I bet all those county workers he's setting an example for would love to show their generosity by accepting a $150k salary without any raises.

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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 09:12:11 PM »
when i take a big promotion and extra responsibility i get paid more? hows it work in your career field?
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 09:23:24 PM »
you think 150 k is too much for running an organization that size?   28 schools 24000 kids  all the infrastructure etc?

My question is does he really run the organization or does he coast on the backs of the grunts like many managers do?

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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 09:45:35 PM »
read the article   find out.  heck he was born into a furniture dynasty 

read the comments to see what folks think
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 11:55:56 AM »
There was a time when public workers, because of their comparative job security, were underpaid.  That was long ago.  Today the average gov't worker makes at least 50 per cent more than his counterparts in the private sector, with generous perquisites.

The average American family makes $50-60K.  I'd say making three times that as a manager in a job where there are no profit targets to measure real performance isn't exactly a hardship post.  We realize that people stay up night figuring out ways to justify why they are worth what they get, but I have to hear a truly convincing argument to justify these salary levels.  When the nation was prosperous, before states and municipalities began regularly running hefty deficits, people ignored what was happening with public sector salary jumps.  Hey, I'd like to know how much he'll collect retired.

The bottom-line is this: this is a system that is not sustainable unless workers in the private sector agree to endless tax increases or we develop a two-tiered economic caste system of flush government workers and Everyone Else (yes, Obama's working on that one).
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 12:44:21 PM »
There was a time when public workers, because of their comparative job security, were underpaid.  That was long ago.  Today the average gov't worker makes at least 50 per cent more than his counterparts in the private sector, with generous perquisites.

Some government jobs still are paid less then the public sector, usually the professional type jobs are such as IT and medical.

I can see how secretaries, custodians and other hourly type workers are paid more in the gov then in the private sector, due to the unions and garenteed step increases.






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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 01:23:54 PM »
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Some government jobs still are paid less then the public [private, you mean?] sector, usually the professional type jobs are such as IT and medical.

A few, not many, but the issue is that traditionally there was a trade-off of pay for security.  Today's government workers have the edge in both, often by a sizeable margin.

My reaction to that story was that it was pure Hamburger Helper, just another puff piece masquerading as journalism.
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Re: non negative political story
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 08:39:28 PM »
Read a stat the other day saying that half of all unionized workers in the country work for the government.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 11:24:41 PM »
A few, not many, but the issue is that traditionally there was a trade-off of pay for security.  Today's government workers have the edge in both, often by a sizeable margin.

My reaction to that story was that it was pure Hamburger Helper, just another puff piece masquerading as journalism.

yeah I ment private.

I'm am IT guy working for a state university, I can make 25-25% more salary in the private sector but I would be probably be under contract or easily unemployed regulary, but with the current state budget cuts and not being faculty or merit (union) I can be showed the door fairly easy.

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