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i couldn't make this up
« on: March 13, 2010, 12:21:02 PM »
Bob Shallit: IRS visits Sacramento carwash in pursuit of 4 cents
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By Bob Shallit
bshallit@sacbee.com The Sacramento Bee
Published: Saturday, Mar. 13, 2010 - 12:00 am | Page 1B

It was every businessperson's nightmare.

Arriving at Harv's Metro Car Wash in midtown Wednesday afternoon were two dark-suited IRS agents demanding payment of delinquent taxes. "They were deadly serious, very aggressive, very condescending," says Harv's owner, Aaron Zeff.

The really odd part of this: The letter that was hand-delivered to Zeff's on-site manager showed the amount of money owed to the feds was ... 4 cents.

Inexplicably, penalties and taxes accruing on the debt – stemming from the 2006 tax year – were listed as $202.31, leaving Harv's with an obligation of $202.35.

Zeff, who also owns local parking lots and is the president of the Midtown Business Association, finds the situation a bit comical.

"It's hilarious," he says, "that two people hopped in a car and came down here for just 4 cents. I think (the IRS) may have a problem with priorities."

Now he's trying to figure out how penalties and interest could climb so high on such a small debt. He says he's never been told he owes any taxes or that he's ever incurred any late-payment penalties in the four years he's owned Harv's.

In fact, he provided us with an Oct. 22, 2009, letter from the IRS that states Harv's "has filed all required returns and addressed any balances due."

IRS spokesman Jesse Weller isn't commenting "due to privacy and disclosure laws."

Zeff says he's as offended as much as anything else by what he considers rude behavior by the IRS guys. While at Harv's, he sniffs, "they didn't even get a car wash."


whats so sad is 2 alleged grownups participated.  i on occaision get a real lame idea, and thankfully usually someone else will say wtf? and slap me with a clue bat. apparently thats not part of tqi or whatever the buzzphrase dujour at the irs is
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 12:44:30 PM »
We should get 5000 people to each underpay their taxes by 5 cents.
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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 01:22:14 PM »
Now that would be illegal.
Although I was listening to Glen Beck yesterday on the way into work, and he had an interesting idea given to him by a caller.
On the 2010 census, we should simply put in the "race" field for everyone....... "American"
I'd like to see how any liberal would be able to get up in arms about that.
Now the IRS going crazy over a nickel.....that's typical.

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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 01:29:04 PM »
Okay, so first I looked at the thread title: "i couldn't make this up".  Then I looked to see who started it, and saw C&Sdaddy's name.   ;/

My first thought was, "riiiggghhhht... sure he couldn't.  C&Sdaddy lives in a special world where all kinds of things happen".   =D

Then I read the first few sentences.  I hereby apologize to C&Sdaddy.  :facepalm: You're not that delusional... yet.  ;)

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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 01:31:12 PM »
thats what the majority of the voices said this morning too  >:D
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 01:48:51 PM »
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thats what the majority of the voices said this morning too

Maybe you should't believe them!   :laugh:

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 01:50:56 PM »
At $200 he got a lot of advertising fairly cheap and made .gov look like thugs.  What more could a person ask for? =D


Oh, Doggy Daddy, the saner side of Las Vegas is Reno. =D
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 02:43:19 PM »
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Oh, Doggy Daddy, the saner side of Las Vegas is Reno.

There are times when I would agree.   :lol:

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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 06:27:51 PM »
About 15 years ago, there was a business in Montrose CO that nearly got shut down over a $0.01 discrepancy.   :mad:

This was on a Form 941, quarterly payroll tax report.  As anyone who has ever filled one of those out knows, there is often a rounding error between the amounts withheld from individual employees, and the total amount based on all employees.  ;/

The US Congressman (can't quite remember his name - "Straing" maybe ? ) stepped in and kicked the IRS in the butt pretty hard.

I think later they actually put in a line on the 941 for "rounding error" so that you could make it balance.  Thankfully, it has been a long long time since I've done one.  =)
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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 07:46:39 PM »
I'm not sure how they would identify a $0.04 error - on my tax forms, everything is rounded to the nearest dollar.  ???

A good response would be to publish the agent's names and pictures on the Internet; public officials engaged in their public duties with a member of the public have no expectation of privacy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 11:00:23 PM »
Good point by Hank.  I had missed this thread and posted another where I mentioned that knowing standard fed.gov procedures, between meetings, reviews and approvals by several different people, and two agents making a house call, I bet they invested man hours worth at least $3000-4000 in taxpayer money to collect the four cents (plus outrageous interest).
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2010, 10:31:25 AM »
Taxes are rounded to the nearest dollar on my stuff also.  You would think these guys have better things to do.  If that is what they are going after, they must in a position to cut a lot of staff since they obviously have no significant tax bills to deal with. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2010, 10:59:54 AM »
I see the problem. Y'all are trying to apply logic to a government bureaucracy.
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Re: i couldn't make this up
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2010, 08:20:18 AM »
Now the IRS going crazy over a nickel.....that's typical.

Actually only $ .04. Therefor you are wrong by 25%. Clearly you do not have what it takes to be an IRS enforcer!!!!
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