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Another Negligent Discharge
« on: June 09, 2010, 09:16:14 AM »
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2010/06/doofus-of-day-357.html
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http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tank+firing+under+investigation+base/3122853/story.html

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Tank-gun firing under investigation at N.B. base

Military police are investigating what caused the gun of a tank to unexpectedly fire a blank round at Canadian Forces Base Gagetown in New Brunswick, injuring 11 people.

The incident happened on May 26 at about 4 p.m. when a Leopard C2 tank was inside a maintenance shelter for repairs, base spokeswoman Stephanie Duchesne said Monday.

"While the tank was inside this shelter, the main gun discharged unexpectedly," she said, noting it was "a negligent discharge" of a blank round. That means it occurred accidentally, or due to human or mechanical error.

A blank round "really simulates the real round. It has the flash and the noise. The only thing you don't have is the projectile that come out of the gun," she explained.

Ten Canadian Forces members and one civilian employee were inside the shelter when the tank discharged. They were treated in a nearby hospital and released the same day.

"They were suffering minor injury to the eardrums," she said.

The soldiers and civilian were all members of 12 RBC Valcartier in Quebec, who were taking part in an Afghan pre-deployment exercise.

Duchesne said members of the Military Police and CFB Gagetown's range control are investigating.

If the incident is determined to be an accidental discharge, members involved could be face a court martial under the National Defence Act. There was no word on how long the investigation will take.

Last month, Canada's former top soldier in Afghanistan Brig.-Gen. Daniel Menard was charged with negligently discharging his rifle. That incident, which took place in March, involved Menard inadvertently firing his rifle as he was about to board a U.S. army helicopter in Kandahar with Canada's top soldier, Gen. Walt Natynczyk. Menard was fined $3,500.
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Okay, maybe not just another negligent discharge, but likely the same causes.   =D 
I am wondering just your average ear plugs would do the job for a gun like that.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 10:43:45 AM »
Definitly an ND. Just on a larger scale.

Someone didn't clear the gun before working on it.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 11:07:25 AM »
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2010/06/doofus-of-day-357.html
Thanks to Preacherman for this one.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tank+firing+under+investigation+base/3122853/story.html
Okay, maybe not just another negligent discharge, but likely the same causes.   =D 
I am wondering just your average ear plugs would do the job for a gun like that.

 A buddy was in front & a little to the side when an Abrams let loose with its main gun.  He lost consciousness.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 01:32:35 PM »
A buddy was in front & a little to the side when an Abrams let loose with its main gun.  He lost consciousness.

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 07:13:27 PM »
At that power level, is your eyesight affected?
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 08:00:24 PM »
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 08:34:44 PM »
At that power level, is your eyesight affected?

Power level over 9000!!!!! ?

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 10:41:36 PM »
And I thought 11 was loud.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 11:38:39 PM »
Does the Leopard C2 have a trigger safety like Glocks? ;)

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 08:41:05 AM »
I'm the only one in this room professional enough to carry this Leopard main battle tank!
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 08:50:29 AM »
WHAT?

Concussion, pressure wave, whatever.  Lesson being, don't stand in front of an Abrams when the main gun lets loose.

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 09:08:30 AM »
A buddy was in front & a little to the side when an Abrams let loose with its main gun.  He lost consciousness.
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As I recall him telling it, he was 100 yards or more in front of the gun, and says the concussion could really be felt rather than heard . . . the shell passed 'way above, but the driving band came off the projectile (They're not supposed to do that, are they?  :O ) and spun across the road in front of him. If that had hit the vehicle he was in, the result would have been . . . bad.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 02:35:26 PM »
<----Spent quite a bit of time around the Abrams.

FYI,

It takes 1.5 volts to fire the Main Gun on the Leopard (or an Abrams for that matter).




A buddy on mine in 4/29 Field Artillery had both his eardrums blown out, concusion and lost consciousness when he was standing by the stake when a M109 (SP 155mm) fired.....He got medically discharged. 

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 02:45:27 PM »
And I thought 11 was loud.

It is.  It's 1 louder.
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 02:46:54 PM »
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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 10:25:53 PM »
I'm the only one in this room professional enough to carry this Leopard main battle tank!
you mean i bought this IWB holster for nothing?

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Re: Another Negligent Discharge
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2010, 12:05:10 AM »
I think that might be the ultimate flash/bang ever.

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