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Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« on: September 18, 2010, 05:43:48 PM »
So I've been using Infinity Publishing for my self-publishing, print-on-demand needs for several years now, and I've been extremely happy with their products and customer service.  With the advent of E-Readers, Infinity has offered to make my books available through some of these for the oh-so-bargain price of $100 each.

The thing is, I retain full rights to my work at all time, and there is nothing in my contract that says I can't sell PDF copies of my book to whomever I please.  The only advantage that I see is that the option won't be available on Amazon, et cetera.  Since only a few people have expressed interest in E-Book versions of my books, I seriously doubt I'm going to make back my investment anytime before John Connor's heyday.

So am I missing something here?  Other than the ease of distribution, I'm at a loss for why I would spend the money.
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Re: Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 05:51:25 PM »
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So am I missing something here?  Other than the ease of distribution, I'm at a loss for why I would spend the money.

To stimulate the economy  ;)


Otherwise, how is Infinity POD working out for you?

I was thinking about doing that a couple years ago.  I've shelved that book and written another in the meantime.
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Re: Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 07:41:19 PM »
The only way I can see it work is if they put the electronic version up in places where it is marketed better and/or can get into more proprietary e-reader systems. 

I know baen books sends me a lot of electronic books sales stuff, but it is for authors I would likely buy in paper anyway. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 07:26:11 AM »
I kind of wish Baen would do E-Book only authors.  Maybe then I would have made the final cut.  This week I finally received a very polite "no thanks" from Baen regarding my first book, Reckless Faith, which I had submitted to their "slush pile" back in January 2009.  Alas, my bid to follow in the footsteps of Larry will have to wait until my next creation. 

It was encouraging to get a personalized reply with notes, which meant the editor in question actually read my book.  His criticisms, both positive and negative, were similar to others I'd already received from my POD audience, and so it didn't surprise me that the book's greatest weaknesses (most notably pacing) were its downfall in this case.  Reckless Faith has a large amount of character development for several chapters before the Sci-Fi kicks in.  Larry got it right by having his protagonist kill his werewolf-boss in the first chapter, although Monster Hunter's themes tend to lend themselves towards exposition more overtly than mine.

Self-publishing in general and the POD industry specifically have worked well for me, insofar as I have gotten out of it exactly what I've put into it, and not much more.  I have made back 50% of the initial investment put into the first book, 25% for book two, and since the third book just came out in April I've only made back about 5% of that one.  The advantages are a high-quality product and excellent distribution, the disadvantages are no physical books on bookstore shelves (unless you talked the manager into putting them there), and no advertising by the publisher (except for what little they do on their home page).  You have to be able to sell yourself and be shameless about I AM AN AUTHOR BUY MY BOOK or nobody will ever know about them.  All of my sales have been through word-of-mouth, including nods on Larry's blog et al.  Every official review request I've sent to actual dead tree publications has gone unanswered.

I am my own worst enemy when it comes to promotion.  There is a great deal I could be doing that I am not.  Most notably, I should be posting a serialized adventure on forums like this one to see if I can gain a following like Larry and Mike did on THR.  I should also be writing short stories which are ostensibly easier to get published in either print periodicals or online review sites.  I can make excuses all day long but the bottom line is that I'm not writing as much as I should, nor taking as many chances as I should.  I recognize this and I'm working to change it.

So if you're considering it, consider most of all what you plan on doing after your book comes out.  Once the warm fuzzy feeling of holding your own book in your hands wears off, you realize nobody knows you exist.

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Re: Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2010, 10:23:15 AM »
Devonai's books are fun to read.  I've read all three and recommend 'em to everybody.  Plot is cool.  Interesting characters.  I disagree they move slowly.  When one is immersed in a good story, you have a double edged sword; you want the story to move, but at the same time you don't want it to end.

I judge a good book by the movie that it starts up in my head.  I'm not a literature critic, I just have read thousands of books of all sorts of genre in my 67 years.  These stories are good ones and Devonai is getting better at containing the voices in his head  =D and putting them on paper. =D
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Re: Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 11:10:19 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out what to do ...

I've gotten good reviews ("couldn't put it down") from several local people, but can't get anywhere yet with an agent or publisher.

As for doing my own marketing, I figure that if I were good at that then I would already be making a good living selling other people's widgets, and would not need to be writing books.  ;/
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Re: Publisher Wants To Charge Me $100 For E-Books I Can Make Myself
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 01:12:51 PM »
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Larry got it right by having his protagonist kill his werewolf-boss in the first chapter

Something that resonates with a lot of folks, right up front.
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