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Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:47:29 PM »
I happened across this AP story today, and a few things jumped right out at me. First, the story is here. (well, actually it's all over the internet, but I found it there first).

Things like this:
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And experts say Germany's phase-out provides a good map that countries such as the United States, which use a similar amount of nuclear power, could follow.

Uh-huh. Who might these "experts" be? Two sentences later, we find out. It's "Felix Matthes of Germany's renowned Institute for Applied Ecology". With a name like that, I suspected the group would be a bunch of environmentalists. Their website more than reaffirms my suspicions. (I also suspected the reporter may have been spiking the story by using the term "renowned", but that's de rigueur for journalists today).

Then there's this:
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The president of Germany's Renewable Energy Association, Dietmar Schuetz, said the government should create a more favorable regulatory environment to help in bringing forward some euro150 billion investment in alternative energy sources this decade by businesses and homeowners.

I wonder: how much does the good Mr. Schuetz stand to gain from these "investments"? More pointedly, is it the taxpayers making the "investments" and Mr. Schuetz and his cronies reaping the rewards?

Then comes the call for "renewable energies". Only three paragraphs later does the good Vice Chancellor admit that the public is going to be socked with higher costs.

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Vice Chancellor Guido Westerwelle said Wednesday "we must learn from Japan" and check the safety of the country's reactors but also make sure viable alternatives are in place.

"It would be the wrong consequence if we turn off the safest atomic reactors in the world, and then buy electricity from less-safe reactors in foreign countries," he told the Passauer Neue Presse newspaper.
But Schuetz insists that "we can replace nuclear energy even before 2020 with renewable energies, producing affordable and ecologically sound electricity."

But someone will have to foot the bill.

"Consumers must be prepared for significantly higher electricity prices in the future," said Wolfgang Franz, head of the government's independent economic advisory body. Merkel last week also warned that tougher safety rules for the remaining nuclear power plants "would certainly mean that electricity gets more expensive."

The article goes on to reveal the the super-green energy sources being used now are being--ta da!--subsidized by the taxpayers.

I guess journalists and politicians are just as slimy on the other side of the pond.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 12:44:45 AM by Monkeyleg »

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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 12:18:21 AM »
Dumbkopfen ..... :facepalm:

Well, on the bright side, that leaves more for us.  [tinfoil]


This Japan thing has really put the fear of neutrinos into everone's britches.  It's getting ridiculous.
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 01:16:37 AM »
This Japan thing has really put the fear of neutrinos into everone's britches.  It's getting ridiculous.

It make me want to cry.   :'(

Nuclear energy is the future.

It's either that or we all are going to have a severely lowered quality of life.

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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 02:21:08 AM »
I guess I missed the part where Japan's reactors turned into big ol' glowin' gophers.

I thought that what happened in Japan is an ENDORSEMENT of nuclear power

But I guess I'm just stupid that way, I think the consumers/taxpayers should keep more of their money.  ;/
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 04:11:21 AM »
Environmentalists refuse to believe that the world will remain a dangerous place no matter how many laws, rules and regulations they put in place. At this point you can still say that more Americans have died in Teddy Kennedy's car than civilian nuclear power plant accidents.

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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 05:48:01 AM »
First, Germany surrenders their spot in the Lybian operation....now they're surrendering their nuclear power plants....I'm expecting them to be invaded by the French any day now....  =|
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 08:58:30 AM »
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 09:39:34 AM »

Hrm.  We could probably pay off our carriers by hooking them up at the ports to give Germany juice when their lights go dim and their power bills skyrocket.
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 09:44:24 AM »
First, Germany surrenders their spot in the Lybian operation....now they're surrendering their nuclear power plants....I'm expecting them to be invaded by the French any day now....  =|

No need to pick on Germany when we have plenty to pick on in the US.  My congressional rep:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Capps-Nix-CA-nuke-plants-apf-3626756770.html?x=0&.v=1
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 10:20:20 AM »

FWIW, Germany did shut down 7 old nuke plants after the fiasco in Japan.  But don't forget the greenies here in the US were running around, biting their ankles, in a great dither over the nuke plants near fault line in NY State. 

http://www.blogster.com/southwesterngrad/united-states-also-has-nuclear-power-plants-in-earthquake-zones

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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 10:26:44 AM »
FWIW, Germany did shut down 7 old nuke plants after the fiasco in Japan. But don't forget the greenies here in the US were running around, biting their ankles, in a great dither over the nuke plants near fault line in NY State. 

For the record, I didn't mean to imply we shouldn't pick on Germany for doing something stupid. I just wanted to point out we might end up being a few rungs higher on the "stupid ladder" when all is said and done.  =(
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 02:18:39 PM »
Chermany is the home of the most aggressive green movement in the west (if not the world).  So the fact it would move down the abandonment road is not surprising.  Remember that our president announced a commission to study nuclear power in the US.  Given his attitude for all things technology I would not be surprised to see a recommendation for the US to likewise abandon nuclear power as it is unsustainable.  He is quite open about his desire to raise the cost of energy to Americans what with ceasing production in and closing coal mines, stopping exploration for oil on US territory, the placing of all sorts of energy reserves off limits, and the promotion of all sorts of cock-eyed green weening dreams like wind and solar and tidal and . . .   Japan's travails is one crisis he has no intentions of wasting.
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 04:16:24 PM »

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I just wanted to point out we might end up being a few rungs higher on the "stupid ladder" when all is said and done.  

Ben, there are times I think we are on the top rung of the Stupid Ladder.

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Germany is the home of the most aggressive green movement in the west (if not the world). 

When I was there in '87 we weree warned to stay away from the airport and train stations as the greenies were bombing them when they could. 
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Re: Germany set to abandon nuclear power
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2011, 02:16:35 AM »
All those greenies over there are taking their ques from Al gore. Scream about how bad things are then make sure you have LOTS of investments in "green" tech that the government is going to force down our throats. If he really believed all the "Global Warming" tripe why did he spend $17 million on a little beach front home? [tinfoil]