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geronimotwo

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allowing? guns on university campus
« on: April 08, 2011, 09:30:07 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110408/ap_on_re_us/us_arizona_campus_guns

arizona is passing legislation to "allow" guns to be on college campuses, as long as they aren't in the buildings.

why is a law needed to do this?  isn't it our right?  why not repeal the law that says it's illegal!
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Re: allowing? guns on university campus
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 10:23:40 AM »
Indeed.

This is why the Republic will ultimately fall, as all governments fall.  Because law becomes spaghetti soup, since law gets made and not unmade.  Then amended, appended to and referred against.  Ultimately it will become meaningless strings of words with no value.

Look at our society's respect for our founding law, the Constitution, and the clear language in it which for one reason or another, seems to confuse so many.

It's not the language that's confusing, it's the generations of myopic desire, tainting the logical interpretive capabilities of the reader, that makes it difficult to comprehend for certain people.

"No means no!" is incomprehensible to a rapist.

"Shall not be infringed" is incomprehensible to a Statist.
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Re: allowing? guns on university campus
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 10:41:27 AM »
. . . law becomes spaghetti soup, since law gets made and not unmade.  Then amended, appended to and referred against.  Ultimately it will become meaningless strings of words with no value.
True. In fact, I remember reading about a case where the prosecution brought charges against someone based on some arcane bit of securities law. After much deliberation, the jury acquitted - they said since they couldn't make heads nor tails of what the law actually said after the fact there was no way they could convict someone under it for what they allegedly did. Whatever it was.  ???

(I've looked at a few laws myself - the legalese may as well have been in Urdu for all the sense it made.)
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Re: allowing? guns on university campus
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 08:44:53 AM »

Texas' State Senator Wentworth pulled his campus carry bill last week.  At the time he didn't have enough backers for the bill to carry.  He may bring it back this week if he can gain support. 

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Re: allowing? guns on university campus
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 11:39:50 AM »
Texas' State Senator Wentworth pulled his campus carry bill last week.  At the time he didn't have enough backers for the bill to carry.  He may bring it back this week if he can gain support. 



That was just one of multiple campus carry bills in front of the Texas house.  Can't remember the others offhand, but there was one that had a huge number of sponsors.  IIRC it was almost half the reps.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 04:39:39 PM »

The Texas House bill was a cinch to pass, but Wentworth's bill originated in the Texas Senate and needed to pass there then the House and Senate would have worked out the minor differences and sent a joint bill to Perry.
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