Pledge of Allegiance sketch..

[Hawkmoon]

Is the "freedom" to kill an unborn child purely a religious issue?

Deciding to categorize a partially-developed fetus as a "child" (and therefore as a "person") rather than as a parasite is a purely religious construct.

[makattak]

Deciding to categorize a partially-developed fetus as a "child" (and therefore as a "person") rather than as a parasite is a purely religious construct.

Deciding to categorize a fully-developed human as a "person" (and therefore deserving of rights) rather than as a parasite on society is a purely religious construct.

[Perd Hapley]

Deciding to categorize a partially-developed fetus as a "child" (and therefore as a "person") rather than as a parasite is a purely religious construct.

What if it were? If I believe that someone is a person deserving of a right to live, what business is it of yours whether that belief is secular, religious or purely at random? Law is meant to protect rights, so I would be conscience-bound to support laws to that effect.

And deciding that some humans are "persons" and some are not is a construct of some kind, whether religious or philosophical. A rather nasty one, at that.


Also, you might want to step back and examine your statement in the cold light of reason. Do you really wish to defend the claim that the unborn young of a mammal are parasites? That would be scientifically unsound.

That the unborn cannot be children is linguistically unsound:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

Then there is this business of religion having some unique reason for treating the unborn as persons. If true, that makes all non-religious worldviews rather grisly, doesn't it? I mean, people might start killing unborn children willy-nilly! Hey, wait a minute...

[Ron]

There is absolutely no scientific support for calling the offspring of any species a parasite, let alone an unborn human with the potentiality of sentience.

The parasitic argument is a weak tactic used to dehumanize the unborn child. 

[gunsmith]

And I would kill my own son, were he mentally retarded, or destined to a life of physical inadequacy. Were it legal, which it unfortunately is not. Would  not want to outsource such a deed to anyone else though. Personal matters.

What is wrong with killing babies? It is not like we are an endangered species..., or that babies are hard to come by.

I hope someday the light of the Creator speaks to your heart, I would pray for you myself but I strongly dislike people like you.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

[Ron]

I hope someday the light of the Creator speaks to your heart, I would pray for you myself but I strongly dislike people like you.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

His inhumane philosophy and carelessness toward human life is the fruit of materialist assumptions.

Cut him some slack, he hasn't been raised in an environment of intellectual freedom.

[gunsmith]

That some ppl feel its ok to kill ppl with down syndrome  boggles my mind

[Ron]

That some ppl feel its ok to kill ppl with down syndrome  boggles my mind

I know, me too, :(

Where I work we employ a couple of developmentally challenged folks. They are beautiful and innocent in their own manner, dealing with them and their special needs in a work environment brings out the best in all of us.

[BridgeRunner]

How fortunate Lanius is that we do not generally kill morally or ethically retarded people. 

[gunsmith]

How fortunate Lanius is that we do not generally kill morally or ethically retarded people. 

Thanks!!!

[Doggy Daddy]

How fortunate Lanius is that we do not generally kill morally or ethically retarded people. 

May every legal argument you ever make rise to the elegance of this one line.  Nicely done!

DD

[RoadKingLarry]

There is absolutely no scientific support for calling the offspring of any species a parasite, let alone an unborn human with the potentiality of sentience.

The parasitic argument is a weak tactic used to dehumanize the unborn child. 

Human offspring don't fall into the parasite catagory till they hit the teen years. Some outgrow it, some don't.

[Lanius]

There is absolutely no scientific support for calling the offspring of any species a parasite, let alone an unborn human with the potentiality of sentience.

Cuckoo birds offspring are parasites... so your sentence is not true.

His inhumane philosophy and carelessness toward human life is the fruit of materialist assumptions.
Cut him some slack, he hasn't been raised in an environment of intellectual freedom.

You are a bunch of bleeding heart hippies, that's what you are..  

I hope someday the light of the Creator speaks to your heart, I would pray for you myself but I strongly dislike people like you.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Can you spot the difference between
a) wishing it were possible for parents to choose to personally kill their own defective children. Not someone elses.
b) performing unethical experiments or assisting in killings of everyone who isn't exactly nazi or useful?

Where I work we employ a couple of developmentally challenged folks. They are beautiful and innocent in their own manner, dealing with them and their special needs in a work environment brings out the best in all of us.

Some of them are that way. On the other hand, many of them are not, see the international 'outrage' executions of certain mentally retarded inmates have caused . Their parents are welcome to take care of them, just don't expect me to do the same or contribute taxes towards that.

And I have rather bad experiences with people whose intellect is not 'defective', but merely subnormal (80-100) range. If they're not nice, they're pretty bothersome, especially if they gang up like primates tend to and suffer from testosterone poisoning..

[Ben]

This one is SO done.

Regards,

Armed POLITE Society